MaderaMark Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Another OUCH!!!! on my pocket..... Am I really cursed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 What are you doing to kill all these freehubs!?! What hub was it this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 Extention Raid. I don't know exactly. I am fat, heavy, noob.... Highest drop honestly is just 4 feet. pedal kick is only a meter, can't sidehop above 3 feet.... I don't know, really.... 1 hour ago, craigjames said: What are you doing to kill all these freehubs!?! What hub was it this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeL Posted Wednesday at 04:52 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 04:52 PM Is driver body steel or alu? Maybe it's time to try fixed hub & freewheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jere_h Posted Wednesday at 06:58 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:58 PM I went from numerous freewheels to a freehub in order to get rid of skipping issues. Modern freewheels are crap, but so are freehubs, it seems. Currently have i9 Hydra and it skips too.. My Hope Pro4 bought in 2017 never skipped even once but unfortunately I sold that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Thursday at 01:45 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:45 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Thursday at 01:47 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:47 AM I had stripped 2 Pro4 ss previously. Lucky to bbe still under warranty, but now I installed that hub into my Dirt jump bike. So I assume it will last forever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Thursday at 01:50 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:50 AM I came from freewheel too.... I had nightmare removing it on the cranks for replacement. So I moved on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted Thursday at 12:30 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:30 PM Best hub I've had since getting back into street trials a couple years ago is the TMS, it's a bit draggy but not skipped once and decent engagement. I'm running an I9 just now and it skips every so often, I might actually sell it and built up my TMS hub again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Friday at 01:20 AM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 01:20 AM How I wished, I am one of the guys who never ever had problems with the rear wheel hub..... other parts were reasonable and cost less than hubs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLIW Posted Friday at 06:21 AM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:21 AM 17 hours ago, The Dark Knight said: Best hub I've had since getting back into street trials a couple years ago is the TMS, it's a bit draggy but not skipped once and decent engagement. I'm running an I9 just now and it skips every so often, I might actually sell it and built up my TMS hub again. Got some specs and a price for the i9 please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted Friday at 11:31 AM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:31 AM 5 hours ago, PLIW said: Got some specs and a price for the i9 please sent you a PM, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingpowers Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:31 PM (edited) On 3/26/2025 at 3:02 PM, MaderaMark said: pedal kick is only a meter If this refers to gapping: Some say that it's about moving forward and upward, not kicking the drivetrain. I improved my width a lot when I made that change decades ago. Friend of mine (>300 cm, unlike my measly hops) says that he only adjusts the pedal position forward during the jump, to retain a good platform to push against. Squatting on the rear wheel also helped me. Edited Friday at 07:31 PM by stirlingpowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bourde Posted Friday at 08:15 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:15 PM On 3/27/2025 at 2:50 AM, MaderaMark said: I came from freewheel too.... I had nightmare removing it on the cranks for replacement. So I moved on.... Go for a Hashtagg freewheel then. One requires the ISIS tool to remove them: Alternative, find a fixed hub with spline body or a crankset like the bonz one: https://www.trial-bikes.com/en/bonz-pro-light-bb24-crankset-p-537672.html I think using the Hashtagg freewheel makes more sense for you, it will be easier to fix compare to the bonz freewheel. If you want, I have a new Tensile freewheel to sell that also use the ISIS tool. It has only 60 POE. I will be happy to sell it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Saturday at 01:13 AM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:13 AM 6 hours ago, stirlingpowers said: If this refers to gapping: Some say that it's about moving forward and upward, not kicking the drivetrain. I improved my width a lot when I made that change decades ago. Friend of mine (>300 cm, unlike my measly hops) says that he only adjusts the pedal position forward during the jump, to retain a good platform to push against. Squatting on the rear wheel also helped me. My pedal kick honestly is somewhat weird to see or maybe. I stopped doing gaps straight front, usually diagonal or sideways since the first time i stripped my hub and landed nuts over the stem. Or maybe I need to imrove my gaps more, it is just heartbreaking to break parts which impacts my pocket and enjoyment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingpowers Posted Saturday at 09:08 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:08 AM (edited) In the last 20 years, I broke just one freehub on my city bike (bought in 2000, cracked in 2021). I weigh 70ish. There has to be some detail in your gap technique that kills them. Or do you have some special dust or sand that clogs the pawls where you live or something? Like that fine Oz outback sand that gets through seals like it's nothing, I mean. Edited Saturday at 07:11 PM by stirlingpowers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Sunday at 05:52 AM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:52 AM the hub is I assumed well sealed. Things that I feared on my experience now; freewheels made from steel hub shells stripped (Hope, Novatec, Morality) this one all made from 7075 (shell and freehub). if only both of these worlds come together.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingpowers Posted Sunday at 09:36 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:36 AM So if it's not the environmentally degraded grease in the hubs, maybe you should skip leg day in the gym 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted Sunday at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:29 PM Are you using a sprung tensioner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted Sunday at 02:49 PM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:49 PM Yes, i made one. Just enough tension to get rid of chain slack. Too tight and I can't crankflip, too loose and it slaps on the chain stays. No chain tensioner; loose/tight chain issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jere_h Posted yesterday at 08:11 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:11 AM (edited) Mind posting a clip of you or at least your cranks when doing a gap? Must be a "bitch crank" issue. If it's not, then I don't think it can be an user error in any other way. If you preload a big amount suddenly and kick very aggressively without letting the hub engage first. Sharp impact with momentum is likely the reason, not power. We see hugely powerful riders using these hubs without constant issues, but they are smooth as. In fact I've been struggling with similar issue for years, since I originally learnt gapping with way too much preload/kicking with the front foot instead of shooting forwards with my body and trying to be more equal with my feet. It's really hard to get rid of that unwanted muscle memory and I still occasionally struggle with that. Often when I try to put all my power on something, the front foot unconsciously lifts way too high. But my hubs have been doing relatively well though, if not counting those faulty products that everyone else is having problems with too. Edited yesterday at 08:14 AM by Jere_h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted yesterday at 08:27 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:27 AM I am just an old fat, short, heavy weight, late boomer learner.... Just trying to progress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jere_h Posted yesterday at 10:58 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:58 AM (edited) Didn't see a massive issue in that particular video, but it came a bit more apparent from the other videos on your channel. There definitely is some "hammering" effect or last minute kicking, if you know what I mean. And you seem like a fairly strong guy so that might be it + bad luck with the parts. Probably try learning to jump more with the body and less with the pedal kick. If you watch pro competition riders they barely lift the front foot when they gap (some small pedal kicks or preloading for drops are different thing). For gaps, they have already preloaded their cranks a bit before the actual preload for the jump which happens with the body. And their ankles/calves do a lot of job, almost equally on both legs. Much easier said than done, I know.. 😃 A good way to practice would be taking off from a ledge or something. So you kind of have to keep the pedals fairly level, or the rear wheel rotates too much and slips off before you get any power down for the gap. As an extreme example, rail gaps or stuff like that don't really allow much wheel rotation. Edited yesterday at 11:09 AM by Jere_h 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted yesterday at 11:49 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:49 AM I am still trying to figure out how to time precisely doing gaps on a ledge. And I still have in my mind that multiple incidents where I gap on ledge with pefect chain breaks..... I will do try to improve my ways..... By the way, EXTENTION just sent me 2 pieces of freehub for free.... Seems glorious yet I am curious.... Thanks for the inputs guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM We will see after my night shift week.... break 1, send 2.... Nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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