javimic Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM Hi! After weeks of use, this is my personal opinion. This is not the best hub I have ever owned. This comparison also involves Hope Pro 4 and Hope Pro 5. Reasons to buy: Reasonable price (u$s 249.-), sturdy construction, no skips in 2 months of use and minimal drag. When you touch it you can notice the impressive construction, stronger than Hope. Before this Spank hub I had a bad experience with 2 Hope pro 4 hubs and 1 Pro 5. Lots of skips and finally total sadness. On the other hand, the Hope warranty is solid if you buy from a trusted store (Tartybikes). Reasons to avoid: It has a lot of play until the pawl engages with the ratchet, at least a lot more play than the Hope Pro 4 (88 engagements points WhatsApp Video 2024-12-10 at 7.17.46 PM.mp4 ) or the Hope Pro 5 hub (108ep). I'm uploading a video for you to see the play. Even I was using a Jitsie Freewheel 18t (108ep) and it was quicker to engage and transmit power in a pedal kick. Feel free to tell me if I'm exaggerating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) If it has slower engagement than a Pro 4, the pawls must not be engaging properly, and it's defective. Or your memory is off Hex has 102 engagement points, Pro 4 SS only 88. I have them here side by side and the difference is noticeable if you look for it (in practice, not so much). Edited 20 hours ago by Daan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basstrials Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) I have same one on my Cannondale and there is none issue like this.Maybe it is bad luck with or it is not suitable for trial use,who knows.Do you checked pawls and springs out? Edited 19 hours ago by basstrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javimic Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 14 hours ago, basstrials said: I have same one on my Cannondale and there is none issue like this.Maybe it is bad luck with or it is not suitable for trial use,who knows.Do you checked pawls and springs out? For a MTB it would be perfect. For trials I'm not saying it's not good, I just like it less than the Hopes in this regard. But I have never tried an i9…. soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javimic Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 15 hours ago, Daan said: ….. Hex has 102 engagement points, Pro 4 SS only 88. I have them here side by side and the difference is noticeable if you look for it (in practice, not so much). As I recently turned 47, anything is possible! 🤪 However, the hub is working properly and it can be used for trials but the engagement is slower than the Hopes. Despite the 102 ep against the 88 ep of Pro4. Total darkness…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bourde Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Thank you for the feedback - this hub is as you said a good alternative to Hope, at least on paper. Did you check the chain tension? Did you check nothing is loose? The profile of teeth and the overall stiffness of the system play a role in the feeling. Some systems may have many engagement points, but until their teeth are really locked and the whole power could be transmitted, a dead or a spongy response coud be felt due to the play of flex of the system. So even with the same number of engagement points, two different freewheels can have a different feeling (e.g. hub with "instant engagement" like the Onyx, that uses a sprag clutch or trapped roller design may feel quite spongy) In addition do not forget, that the difference between the Hope pro IV SS freewheel with 88 p.o.e. and the Pro IV with 108 p.o.e. (20 p.o.e. but 4,09° - 3,33°= 0,76° ) is less than between a freewheel with 72 p.o.e. and another with 88 (16 p.o.e, but 5° - 4,09° = 0,91°) I have a freewheel with 120 p.o.e. and another one with 135 and the difference is liminal. But considering the answers of Daan and basstrials, I assume your freewheel is defective. Edited 2 hours ago by La Bourde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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