Hope Pro 4 SS Vs Pro 5

[craigjames]

I'm looking at replacing my old Echo Sl Ti freewheel with a 135mm bolted freehub. I've been considering either a Hope Pro4 SS or a Pro 5, are there any real reliability or performance issues with either hub? I've seen that there were a few problems with both models when they were first released, but lots of people seem to use them with their Crewkerz frames, just not heard of any recent/long term issues.

i'd love an I9 or a Chris King, but one is too cost is the main reason for discounting these options.

[La Bourde]

You are right, there are problems with both hubs. Some riders even do not want to ride Hope anymore (e.g. Yohan Triboulat).
But I never encountered a problem with my Hope IV SS (I had 3 different hubs).

I saw quite a few used Hope Pro V recently to sell that came back from warranty.

Charlie Rolls seems happy with his two hubs.
Difficult to get a clear picture of the reliability.

Some I9 had also issues.

My current assumption is that the frame stiffness, how the wheel is laced and how powerful the rider is play a big role in the reliability

[Swoofty]

I know you're asking about Hope hubs, but if you're looking for a bolt-on 135, I've had great luck with TMS's freehub. It's only 72 poe, but it's 302g and it's been bulletproof for over 2 years now. Not sure how Brexit shipping is, but the hub is 169 euros. I've recently built up a new Ozonys 20" and needed a 12x135 so went with a Hope 5. So far so good.

[craigjames]

11 hours ago, La Bourde said:

You are right, there are problems with both hubs. Some riders even do not want to ride Hope anymore (e.g. Yohan Triboulat).
But I never encountered a problem with my Hope IV SS (I had 3 different hubs).

I saw quite a few used Hope Pro V recently to sell that came back from warranty.

Charlie Rolls seems happy with his two hubs.
Difficult to get a clear picture of the reliability.

Some I9 had also issues.

My current assumption is that the frame stiffness, how the wheel is laced and how powerful the rider is play a big role in the reliability

I did see that Hope have released an update to the Pro 5 to resolve some of the issues. I guess all parts are going to have problems to a degree.

At least Hope's warranty is pretty good.

8 hours ago, Swoofty said:

I know you're asking about Hope hubs, but if you're looking for a bolt-on 135, I've had great luck with TMS's freehub. It's only 72 poe, but it's 302g and it's been bulletproof for over 2 years now. Not sure how Brexit shipping is, but the hub is 169 euros. I've recently built up a new Ozonys 20" and needed a 12x135 so went with a Hope 5. So far so good.

I'd not seen the TMS hub to be honest, it's light for a rear freehub that's for sure. Interesting, although not as being as a Hope 🤣