Canardweb Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hello everyone. This is aimed at everyone but maybe @Ali Cor @AdamR28will be more able to help. I want to use Vees again as thy were arguably the best brakes I have used for trials. Everything is available on Tarty from Avid SD7 levers, Shimano arms, SP51 housing to cables. But I can't find pads or backings anywhere. But then again I can still make my own. The biggest issue is you can't find adapters anywhere! So has anyone got an idea? Can we make our own or would they be too fragile because of the lack of heat treatment? Any help is appreciated but I think I have to forget about Vees... Thanks a lot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Sometimes you can drill / tap the lower frame mount out to M8 and screw a boss straight in. Depends what bike it is (photo would help). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) I own a Crewkerz Cleep 2. I will try and post some photos of the brake area but it's definitely impossible for the carbon forks. What I thought was drilling a V-brake boss and inserting a non ended M5 bolt in it so you could screw it in the existing M5 Maggie thread on the frame. I don't know if I am clear enough... Edited June 23, 2023 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYAKOV Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 You can just make your own dude, there isn’t anything too complicated and you can play with the design (at your own risk, of course). I’ve made quite a few adapters and they’ve all worked pretty well. I’m sure you’ll figure out the dims but one tip from me is make sure you use a pillar drill! Are you based in the uk? I can post a piece of aluminium flat bar and bosses if that helps? Cheers, Nas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, DYAKOV said: You can just make your own dude, there isn’t anything too complicated and you can play with the design (at your own risk, of course). I’ve made quite a few adapters and they’ve all worked pretty well. I’m sure you’ll figure out the dims but one tip from me is make sure you use a pillar drill! Are you based in the uk? I can post a piece of aluminium flat bar and bosses if that helps? Cheers, Nas Wow that's awesome work. I live in France and don't have tools to make this kind of part right unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Another vote for making your own, I made some with nothing more than a hacksaw, vice, drill and tap. i tried a few designs and even 3D printed some other ideas until I found one that seemed to work really well. The shape wasn’t ideal to machine though so Euan Beadon helped adjust the design slightly and then machined a batch for me (thanks Euan!), annoyingly even though everything worked well in the 3D print there were some clearance issues with the alloy ones, a spacer under the post would fix it but I haven’t gotten round to doing that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bourde Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Nice work Ali and Euan! I face also the same problem, I cannot find any adapter and that is why I continue to ride with a cracked one. I think the tangential force that the wheel applies was quite underestimated. One thing I am not sure about is whether the distance between the screw holes of the Magura mount of the same seatstay (this word does not make sens on a comp bike 😂) is the same across different frame/brand. I guess it should be, but the tolerance in MTB/trials are often quite bad. I never checked on my different bikes. The adapters I have are compatible with different lengths between the screw holes. And it is also possible to adjust angle that the adapter does with the seatstay. @Ali C a Levelboss and another Koxx frame (the streety one, right ?). Hope to see them soon in a vlog. Do you think it it possible to get some adapters from Euan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Ali C said: Another vote for making your own, I made some with nothing more than a hacksaw, vice, drill and tap. i tried a few designs and even 3D printed some other ideas until I found one that seemed to work really well. The shape wasn’t ideal to machine though so Euan Beadon helped adjust the design slightly and then machined a batch for me (thanks Euan!), annoyingly even though everything worked well in the 3D print there were some clearance issues with the alloy ones, a spacer under the post would fix it but I haven’t gotten round to doing that yet. Well this is superb! I don't know anyone here that could machine anything like that. Could Euan make some more? I would pay for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Canardweb said: Well this is superb! I don't know anyone here that could machine anything like that. Could Euan make some more? I would pay for that! It would need a slight revision before it’s ready to be used fully, I think I can’t get these to work but it wouldn’t be possible to sell them as-is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 I have a pair of echo adapters. You'll need V posts, but they should be available. Message me with your address and we can figure out shipping, I'm in the USA. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Ali C said: It would need a slight revision before it’s ready to be used fully, I think I can’t get these to work but it wouldn’t be possible to sell them as-is Well, that's alright as I have plenty of time. Please let me know if you or Euan are ready to sell some to me and others maybe? Thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, Swoofty said: I have a pair of echo adapters. You'll need V posts, but they should be available. Message me with your address and we can figure out shipping, I'm in the USA. Cheers That's great from you but I am in no hurry. And I can't say Ali hasn't peaked my interest with what he has shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 No worries. I'll be in Germany in mid August and shipping would be much cheaper if you're still interested then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLIW Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Thank me latter https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134431484195?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=xga6e-jdsv6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=a7YOcu6wRGi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bourde Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 @Canardweb: you are first! Seen in the comment of this video: (The hack on the Jistsie is also quite nice, but I still prefer to avoid the problem - see Crewkerz 😂) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, La Bourde said: @Canardweb: you are first! Seen in the comment of this video: (The hack on the Jistsie is also quite nice, but I still prefer to avoid the problem - see Crewkerz 😂) Go for it bro. I maybe can get a big brand to work on them... More on it later if that happens. Most probably in July! The Heatsink ones were really the best as far as I know but I have doubts they could go on my carbon forks or on the brake mounts on the Cleep 2 brake area. I actually don't know if any can fit as this frame has a weird brake area compared to other frames. I would also prefer having two pairs of the same adapters so I could go dual Vees on my bike. Edited June 25, 2023 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 17 hours ago, Swoofty said: No worries. I'll be in Germany in mid August and shipping would be much cheaper if you're still interested then. Thanks a lot mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 15 hours ago, PLIW said: Thank me latter https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134431484195?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=xga6e-jdsv6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=a7YOcu6wRGi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY I swear I had a look for some and I couldn't find any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLIW Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 15 hours ago, Canardweb said: I swear I had a look for some and I couldn't find any! Been on there ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 hours ago, PLIW said: Been on there ages. They are kind of expensive though, aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) Yep. You might even say that they're "little over priced if you look about for what they have sold for" They were only £30 when new! Edited June 26, 2023 by aener 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 22 hours ago, Canardweb said: I swear I had a look for some and I couldn't find any! I'm finding that with ebay as well recently... Using Google returns results on ebay that I couldn't find using the search on actual ebay, weird! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatty r Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Saw this thought it was an option mbay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLIW Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Canardweb said: They are kind of expensive though, aren't they? Yes / No. Rare, they work, they are good, nothing else about and Steve might be back one day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 8 hours ago, fatty r said: Saw this thought it was an option mbay That was kind on the idea I had. I wanted a V brake boss with an M5 bolt under it. But I forgot you need the holes for the spring to go into them. That could work I guess. 4 hours ago, PLIW said: Yes / No. Rare, they work, they are good, nothing else about and Steve might be back one day Oh agreed they are clearly one of the best options out there. I guess it's shipping that makes them expensive to me. I sure hope Steve is back one day, he was a top guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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