Swoofty Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) There was a thread a while back where someone was asking about 26" disc pure trials frames. Through that thread I found this TMS Evo6 and now it's finally complete, well 99%. The build was a huge pain in arse for numerous reasons, but the ride today made most of that fade away. My advice to anyone who wants one of these - buy the complete bike. First off, the frame is 116 rear spacing, which is completely unnecessary on a 26" bike. The first hub I ordered wouldn't fit properly so I ordered the Clean hub that comes on the full bike. The post mount brake mounts on the frame were at such an angle they needed A LOT of facing to get them square. Next, the chain tensioner that came with the frame couldn't be set up properly and then to correct for the proper chainline I had to drill and file the frame and tensioner to get it all lined up. Had some freewheel issues as well and then over a month wait for the carbon rims from China. At least now I can go for a ride from my house in wonderful disc brake silence and never have to grind these rims. I'll let you know how it's holding up after I've got a few months on it. TMS Evo6 26R frame Crewkerz WAW tapered carbon disc fork Comas 130x25 stem WAW carbon riser bar Extralite Hyper JF front hub Clean X2 rear hub Light Bicycle carbon rims 32mm front, 46mm rear Bonz splined cranks Clean 135 freewheel Magura MT5 front & rear (will be, Hayes A4 rear right now) Edited August 2, 2020 by Swoofty Better pics 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Michie Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Very nice indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 That's ever so pretty. Kinda thing you just stare at for days, beverage in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 cool to see something different! What are your thoughts on the Hayes? Been tempted after feeling how nice the levers are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 I initially bought 2 of the A4s to try as rear brakes on 2 different bikes. The first one was stellar right out of the box. The second one was never very impressive and I eventually sold it. The first one began leaking after about a month and Hayes warrantied it and sent me a new one. It works fine again, but they don't have the overall power of a Magura MT5/7. The Maguras also have lots of pad options available which helps as well. Alas the search for the perfect trials brake continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Repress Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Nice build, out of curiosity what tools did you use to face the mounts? I need to do it on one of my bikes but the tools I’ve seen a hellishly expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Target Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Looks really cool! It would be really nice to see some photos on some less colourful background. What is the weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Private Repress said: Nice build, out of curiosity what tools did you use to face the mounts? I need to do it on one of my bikes but the tools I’ve seen a hellishly expensive! Ha ha, yeah it was the hellishly expensive one! Park DT 5.2. Luckily I checked ebay and miraculously there was a used one for $125 that's still in like new condition. My local shop, even with my buddy-bro deal was going to be $30 to do just one brake and the way I go through bikes I figured it was a sound investment. Needless to say, all my disc bikes are faced now :-) Anyone is welcome to come over and use the tool, but as I'm in Los Angeles that won't help too many people on here. I'll get a weight once the Jitsie Reverz is on the rear and the MT5. Edited August 1, 2020 by Swoofty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Repress Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) On 01/08/2020 at 9:32 PM, Swoofty said: Ha ha, yeah it was the hellishly expensive one! Park DT 5.2. Luckily I checked ebay and miraculously there was a used one for $125 that's still in like new condition. My local shop, even with my buddy-bro deal was going to be $30 to do just one brake and the way I go through bikes I figured it was a sound investment. Needless to say, all my disc bikes are faced now :-) Anyone is welcome to come over and use the tool, but as I'm in Los Angeles that won't help too many people on here. I'll get a weight once the Jitsie Reverz is on the rear and the MT5. Haha I’ve just mentioned to my girlfriend about nipping over to LA from England to save money buying a bike part and she’s up for the idea haha! I bet the riding out there is incredible Edited August 3, 2020 by Private Repress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Waw! Great looking steed! Back end looks incredibly short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 31/07/2020 at 11:19 PM, Swoofty said: There was a thread a while back where someone was asking about 26" disc pure trials frames. Through that thread I found this TMS Evo6 and now it's finally complete, well 99%. The build was a huge pain in arse for numerous reasons, but the ride today made most of that fade away. My advice to anyone who wants one of these - buy the complete bike. First off, the frame is 116 rear spacing, which is completely unnecessary on a 26" bike. The first hub I ordered wouldn't fit properly so I ordered the Clean hub that comes on the full bike. The post mount brake mounts on the frame were at such an angle they needed A LOT of facing to get them square. Next, the chain tensioner that came with the frame couldn't be set up properly and then to correct for the proper chainline I had to drill and file the frame and tensioner to get it all lined up. Had some freewheel issues as well and then over a month wait for the carbon rims from China. At least now I can go for a ride from my house in wonderful disc brake silence and never have to grind these rims. I'll let you know how it's holding up after I've got a few months on it. TMS Evo6 26R frame Crewkerz WAW tapered carbon disc fork Comas 130x25 stem WAW carbon riser bar Extralite Hyper JF front hub Clean X2 rear hub Light Bicycle carbon rims 32mm front, 46mm rear Bonz splined cranks Clean 135 freewheel Magura MT5 front & rear (will be, Hayes A4 rear right now) Very nice build. What do you think of carbon rims? How does it feel? Shame about all these things you have gone through to build the bike. Seems TMS still don't know how to build frames... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted August 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Canardweb said: What do you think of carbon rims? I've been running carbon rims on my street trials bike for nearly 2 years now with no problems. On this build, the lightness of the rims only barely offsets the weight of the rotors so no gain there. The rear rim is 46mm OD and it's really beautiful and seems quite stiff so far. The current rear brake isn't holding like I want so I'm waiting on a new MT5 before I really start abusing it. I'll keep you posted. The entire front wheel with tyre and all is ridiculously light and I resisted the urge to go straight pull and radial laced on the non-disc side. Maybe someday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 03/08/2020 at 8:57 PM, Swoofty said: I've been running carbon rims on my street trials bike for nearly 2 years now with no problems. On this build, the lightness of the rims only barely offsets the weight of the rotors so no gain there. The rear rim is 46mm OD and it's really beautiful and seems quite stiff so far. The current rear brake isn't holding like I want so I'm waiting on a new MT5 before I really start abusing it. I'll keep you posted. The entire front wheel with tyre and all is ridiculously light and I resisted the urge to go straight pull and radial laced on the non-disc side. Maybe someday.... Looks amazing anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 OK so now it's got dual MT5s and Reverz front and rear so it's weigh-in time. It's a whopping 18.8 pounds/ 8.5 kg. I could go to 180mm rotors front and rear and save a little weight, but there's nothing drastic I could do without getting silly. The first 4 rides have been great and I think the lightness of the carbon rim lets the wheel spin up quicker because I can gap and kick up slightly farther/higher than on my Curve V8 that's pretty much the same weight as this bike. Now I've just got to keep abusing it to see how it holds up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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