Jack Heard Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 This has probably been posted tons of times but I would like to know all your opinions on titanium bolts. Are they really worth spending that extra money. Or is it just for bling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Mainly bling. My 24 is covered in them, virtually every bolt. I've snapped one in a stem, but I was always pissing about with it and I do them up really tight. They'll round off easier than steel bolts, get ones with nice deep heads, preferably parallel not the domed type. With stems and brake mounts I don't take any chances and I've rounded off a couple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Ti bolts do make a difference but only if you go all out and replace as much steel as possible.I'd start with Ti bolts for the Hope rear hub if you have one, that'd make the biggest difference. I use ti bolts everywhere (including brakes) but I also use alloy bolts in a few places (stem steerer, seat clamp, cassette lockring, seat bolt on tripod or pivotal seats, and even my front hub bolt is alloy (arcade forks and through axle, the axle is supported on both sides by the fork so the bolt doesn't have any forces going through it other than tightening ones). You could look to get ti pedal axles but that gives me the fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Totally not worth £ spent per game saved, but so worth it because ti! I've gone to the extent of changing everything I can to Ti, bar spokes; pedal axles brake fittings, grub screws and every single bolt. Doesn't save that much weight, but they're shiny and not steel which is more important IMO. Not really had any issues with them rounding, as said get cap heads or taper head type and you'll be all good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Heard Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Looks like I'll be buying some Titanium bolts soon then. Problem solved cheers guys. What are the sizes need for certain components. For example. Stem bolts or magura lever bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Typical Trialtech stems are all M6, all disc mount stuff is M6, older style Magura lever clamp bolts are M5, rotor bolts are M5, Hope axle is M10. Not sure on lengths off the top of my head but you can just measure yours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Heard Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Thanks that's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I have a TI bleed bolt stuck in a racing line lever, it's cracked and rounded which is a right pickle. I wouldn't use small ones, not worth it to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Heard Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ItsMatt said: I have a TI bleed bolt stuck in a racing line lever, it's cracked and rounded which is a right pickle. I wouldn't use small ones, not worth it to me. That is a bit of a pickle. I'll keep that in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Song Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 For the big bolts such as the crank bolts, the ti bolts are definitely worth it. As for the small bolts like the stem bolts, the benefits are not necessarily noticeable. And you run the risk of rounding them out. There is more weight saving in ti axle. I saved 100 grams from using the echo ti axle for bb and another 100 grams for the ti pedal axles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 As long as you use decent quality tools, decent quality bolts and don't hang off the Allen key like your life depends on it and Ti bolts are fine. Never quite understood why people have so many issues with them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, craigjames said: Never quite understood why people have so many issues with them. They don't use decent quality tools 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 You've seen how ham fisted most of the proletariat are, right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) My main was problem was I bought a big bunch of the same bolts, yet they weren't all identical. Some of the heads were just deep enough, but some were really shallow, too shallow for something that has to be really tight. My tools are fairly shit but it's never been an issue with steel bolts. I've got the Stan Hope axle bolts, they're really good, I'd prefer if they were allen key so I didn't have to carry round an extra tool just for that, but otherwise they're great. But like above, for small bolts it's hardly worth it and just for looks really. Hope axle bolts are HEAVY, so that's your biggest saving. Edited January 23, 2017 by LEON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I've never rounded a ti bolt myself, I bought a bike which came with the bleed screw stuck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ. Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 If you're building up a shiny new bike then Ti bolts are the icing on the cake, But depending on the spec of your bike would determine whether or not they're worth it. I prefer the torx head ones over the socket cap type for the reasons as mentioned, rounding off a £3 bolt is devastating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 21 hours ago, ItsMatt said: I've never rounded a ti bolt myself, I bought a bike which came with the bleed screw stuck. If that's my old bike it shouldn't be, I bled the brakes about a week before hand. Did nip it fairly tight with a decent Allen key though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Heard Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 I am planning putting them on a new build with pretty high spec thank you all for your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 23.1.2017 at 1:45 PM, LEON said: Hope axle bolts are HEAVY, so that's your biggest saving. What's the weight saving? 20gr. for both bolts? Not worth the money seeing that I could save more than half a kilo just by switching to Inspired Team V2 rims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Probably, none of it's significant unless you're gonna do every single bolt. Even then it's hardly gonna change your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 hours ago, niconj said: What's the weight saving? 20gr. for both bolts? Not worth the money seeing that I could save more than half a kilo just by switching to Inspired Team V2 rims. Aye, might only be 20g, but when you've done the rims and everything else apart from the bolts; it's just the next step. The weight saving might be negligible, but shiny shiny so definitely worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, craigjames said: Aye, might only be 20g, but when you've done the rims and everything else apart from the bolts; it's just the next step. The weight saving might be negligible, but shiny shiny so definitely worth it. OK. Coolness factor x10. Been there, done that. Not for me anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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