Ben Davies Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ladies, Gents, I've been riding trials on and off for the past 17 years, a few years breaks here and there/part time love etc etc.... my first proper trials bike was a Pashley in 1999 after several small XC frames which I snapped or wrecked in one way or another! When I first ever got pashley no.1 home I found setting up magura hs33 a bit of a pain with a mavic d521, the brake was always spongey, squealed like a pig and was just generally really annoying - however, I was in love with the pashley and it looked so much better than the previous bikes I'd had so soldiered on with it...I changed the rim to an X-Lite Phatso after about a year and that made them a bit less annoying to set up but was still never perfect, sadly that bike was sold in 2001 and I regret it to this day but hey ho, these things happen. Over the years I've have several different trials frames, long/short/no seat etc/20/24/26 inch wheels and something always drags me back to a Pashley - I've had 6 in total over time! every time I've had magura brakes and it has always been a pain in the ass setting them up. Has anyone else had this problem with this frame/brake set up? the annoying thing is that the magura evo mounts (which are easier to set up) don't fit the Pashley frame as the brake lugs are to far apart, is there any secret in setting them up on this frame or am I destined for a crap rear brake forever? ....or just sack off the maggie and get a decent V brake? Advice would be much appreciated as I am currently building one at the moment - a very nice one at that with lots of money thrown at it!! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 If it were me, I would go down the vee brake route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Yep. Just go V with a decent booster. What rim are you running? If it's a 521 you'll need spacers in the V pads to reach the rim worth out the V arms being maxed out (inwards). Unless you're running metal backing pads with a good 8-9-10mm of pad? Edited December 15, 2015 by Ross McArthur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Davies Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I reckon that's what I'll end up doing, at the moment I have an EX721 so yeah, a 521! I do plan to get something wider after Christmas though... maybe a Jitsie rim or something similar which is 47mm wide (I think - could be 49mm). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) On 12/14/2015 at 2:00 PM, Cyder man said: The brake was always spongey, the annoying thing is that the magura evo mounts (which are easier to set up) don't fit the Pashley frame as the brake lugs are to far apart, is there any secret in setting them up on this frame or am I destined for a crap rear brake forever? ....or just sack off the maggie and get a decent V brake? What's the reason for not setting up EVO/Evo2 without the magura booster and using a 2bolt with loads of adjustment like a trialtech or tensile? Or drill/file out the bottom holes on a 4 bolt version so that it accepts a longer m6 bolt for the Vbrake bolt? Or failing that, why not make a booster from scratch out of some 1mm or 2mm plate mild steel? I did this for my Zoot - just by winging it, but you could easily copy an existing item and adjusting the dimensions to what is needed. For the current mod I made a 2 bolt (without booster spacers) by hacking the bridge/brace off a pair of tesco bike forks with a grinder, measured the bolt centers, worked out my tyre clearances, marked it out with a sharpie and set at it. Then finished off with a couple of coats of poundshop black spray paint. It works just as well as the T/tech 2bolt on the fourplay, weighs nigh on the same, and was essentially free cos I weighed in the donor bike with some other scrap and got my money back EDIT: Telling slight lies... Because I use standard Magura clamps without flat tops, there are a couple of KMC Z510 rollers in there as bolt spacers so the booster doesn't foul the clamps - I actually had to add more than I needed because the booster was sooo stiff. Edited December 21, 2015 by CC12345678910 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamAllen Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 On 12/16/2015 at 10:52 AM, Cyder man said: I reckon that's what I'll end up doing, at the moment I have an EX721 so yeah, a 521! I do plan to get something wider after Christmas though... maybe a Jitsie rim or something similar which is 47mm wide (I think - could be 49mm). Just to let you know i have 2 brand new dx32's if you'd be interested, I think one would suit better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I know this might be sacrilegious, but you could get one of the magura braze on 4 bolt kits and switch to 4 bolt. Either that or a really well set up vee. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Davies Posted December 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 On 22 December 2015 at 1:29 AM, AdamAllen said: Just to let you know i have 2 brand new dx32's if you'd be interested, I think one would suit better Hey, what colour and how many spoke holes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Davies Posted December 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 On 21 December 2015 at 7:04 PM, CC12345678910 said: What's the reason for not setting up EVO/Evo2 without the magura booster and using a 2bolt with loads of adjustment like a trialtech or tensile? Or drill/file out the bottom holes on a 4 bolt version so that it accepts a longer m6 bolt for the Vbrake bolt? Or failing that, why not make a booster from scratch out of some 1mm or 2mm plate mild steel? I did this for my Zoot - just by winging it, but you could easily copy an existing item and adjusting the dimensions to what is needed. For the current mod I made a 2 bolt (without booster spacers) by hacking the bridge/brace off a pair of tesco bike forks with a grinder, measured the bolt centers, worked out my tyre clearances, marked it out with a sharpie and set at it. Then finished off with a couple of coats of poundshop black spray paint. It works just as well as the T/tech 2bolt on the fourplay, weighs nigh on the same, and was essentially free cos I weighed in the donor bike with some other scrap and got my money back EDIT: Telling slight lies... Because I use standard Magura clamps without flat tops, there are a couple of KMC Z510 rollers in there as bolt spacers so the booster doesn't foul the clamps - I actually had to add more than I needed because the booster was sooo stiff. Thanks for the idea... I might just consider that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Davies Posted December 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 On 22 December 2015 at 10:29 AM, craigjames said: I know this might be sacrilegious, but you could get one of the magura braze on 4 bolt kits and switch to 4 bolt. Either that or a really well set up vee. That has crossed my mind but the frame has just had a new powder coat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Get a new rim first then a decent V unless you can get a set of the old magura mounts, somewhere must still sell them or there should be hundreds lying about in sheds/garages across Britain! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Take the DX32, you can't put a Jitsie rim on a Pashley! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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