forteh Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Buy a second hand king, preferably one that's been used for xc, that way you have a pre-bedded in hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Not a huge fan of buying bike parts second hand if im honest and not many king single speed hubs are used for xc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Hey man, I've got a few Spikes left in chrome and white. If you're a fan of black then the Inspired undrilleds on Tarty are a good choice The guys who've posted already have given you credible advice . The DT will feel like crap and then proceed to die horribly, not to mention it might end up hurting you so steer clear. The updated Hope 80ep hubs are really excellent. But.... you don't want a Hope hub no matter how good they are. So get an ISO King and remember to bed it in sufficiently. If you want something different but still fine for trials then the billion-ep Profiles should be fine on a 24" rim I'd imagine. Little off-topic but aimed at Pro 2 80ep owners: how long did you allow yours to bed in before doing anything trialsy? Edited July 23, 2015 by Sponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 The latest Syndicate video had the mechanics talking about the King hubs Peaty, Minnar and Rat Boy use. They put a drill on the end of them and spin the f**k out of them to bed them in. You'll pick up a second hand King wheel for about £130-£150. There is a boy on here with a load of spank rims in different colours. Have a search in the FS section. Aye, him.... Little off-topic but aimed at Pro 2 80ep owners: how long do you allow yours to bed in before doing anything trialsy? As far as I know they are good to go straight off the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thanks dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I prefer black rims, might just reuse the rim I got which is a inspired undrilled as don't seem to be for sale on tarty bikes, there really isn't much choice for hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 The latest Syndicate video had the mechanics talking about the King hubs Peaty, Minnar and Rat Boy use. They put a drill on the end of them and spin the f**k out of them to bed them in. That's how I bedded in my echo sl freewheel. How this guy can consider anything other than hope for trials is beyond me. Chris Kings are miles too much money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Chris Kings are miles too much money unless you buy second hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 WILL YOU JUST BUY A F**KING HOPE ALREADY!?!? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) One of the French riders on the Ozonys street team was running the new Profile hubs and they did look rather nice, He posted a picture about a month later with his bike running Hopes (in the same colour) so I imagine that the hubs aren't up to the job the same. I also have had issues with King hubs in the past and have seen other riders eat shit running them (including a jaw break and some pretty bad scaffolding around his head for over a month). Hope are designed around trials, they're a 10 year or more design that's been tweaked over the years to make sure they're as faultless as they can be, easy to service and just give you that reassurance you need. If I didn't run a Hope I would move to a Trialtech 16t freewheel. Edited July 23, 2015 by Paperclip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nothing is as good as a Hope. Plus if you ever break something, Chris King will never help you out the way Hope will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 That'll be a no then. I believe all the dark red Arcades have come with the 40t version of the hub, so it's possible he might have done. As said, it's weird that despite good experiences and all the pros of running a Hope hub, you'd rather run something that isn't as good. The 40t versions feel really good (and don't really require any bedding in as such - I put mine on at Tarty Days and haven't really done anything with them and they've been fine), and are a very much fit-and-forget item. I'd rather go down that route and have a bike that I can just get on and ride with no worries rather than go for something that I might feel had some kind of novelty value at first but then would quickly become a nuisance when it starts skipping/breaking through normal trials use. Your call though. For what it's worth, I ran a second hand King for a pretty long time and it was faultless. I got the hub for so cheap that even if I'd needed to put some new bits in it to get it running properly it still wouldn't have been uneconomical. If you keep an eye out you should be able to grab a bargain, especially if you get hold of one with the HD axle already fitted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1987 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Just got back from my first ride with a new Hope hub, buy a f**king hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Nothing is as good as a Hope. Plus if you ever break something, Chris King will never help you out the way Hope will. Wow wow wow! I've sent them two broken shells for replacement no problem. Even changed one to an ISO FOC a d changed the colour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkness Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) ОMG, man, just get HOPE/KING. There are no other hub that working so well in trials. If you want to test some and throw away a bunch of money - ok, your choice. But as Ross said it's really STUPID. Edited July 24, 2015 by darkness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) its Like some Hope cult on here. I also feel that maybe for 'trials' other hubs might not be up to scratch but my riding style on my fourplay is less static or hoppy I tend do do more rolling moves like hop to manuals/nose manual lines, tailwhips and 180's and inverts, so my question is even if im not doing conventional trials move's would it make that much difference or matter if I ran a 'weaker' hub because my riding style isn't as aggressive on the hub as say a more traditional trials style? Edited July 24, 2015 by uk24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Do you really want to take the risk of it breaking? I'd rather spend the money and have 100% confidence and reliability, and hopes legendary warranty/customer service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I wouldn't say it's a cult, just people use what is proven to work - a bit like dual ply tyres and water in your magura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 if it breaks it breaks just gives me an opportunity to try another hub variety is the spice of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 From your original post your only concerned about bling so get the blingiest hub, ride it, break it, then buy a hope 40t. They are the best for the job and a really good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Unfortunately, there aren't many options so people tell you what's good and what's not. I just wonder what it is that you don't like in the Hope hubs. its Like some Hope cult on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I dunno what it is, they just don't excite me as much as other brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 No hub excites me it's the riding that's exciting and being able to do it with a reliable part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 if im not doing conventional trials move's would it make that much difference or matter if I ran a 'weaker' hub because my riding style isn't as aggressive on the hub as say a more traditional trials style? So you're aiming to buy a weaker hub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 So to recap, you want a hub thats a bit flash and a bit different, strong enough for trials, single speed, with disk mounts, a decent amount of ep's but not a Hope? I think you'll struggle to be fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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