AdamR28 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 So how are they different then, they are both still being made in small batches by people in Taiwan and the cost difference in tubing is probably in pence rather than £100's. Custom forge tooling for head tube vs turned bit of ally tube. Custom forge tooling for BB yoke vs no BB yoke. Custom forge tooling for dropouts vs off the shelf dropouts. Custom tooling to bend the chain and seat stays vs Unsure, but unlikely to go to anything like the level of detail Inspired do. Butted tubing vs plain tubing. Multiple process finishing method (the red frame is actually prepped and sprayed in gold, then has red lacquer added, then the graphics, then clear lacquer) vs basic black paint. The Inspired frame probably costs double (or more) to produce when you factor in a 'cost per item' on the tooling... Oh, and what JD said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Facts schmacts though, right? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingpowers Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 You sayin' these are forged? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Yes: To increase strength, stiffness and tyre clearance the Fourplay uses a development of the proven forged one-piece bottom bracket and chainstay yoke found on the previous model. Excess material has been removed from this area to help reduce the weight while shortening the chainstays and maintaining the associated performance benefits. Yet more reasons why it costs more than this to make: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 uk24, what does a 10+ year old frame (which is actually pretty crap when you take your rose tinted specs off) have to do with anything contemporary? My car was £450 new in 1952, i'm not gonna use that to justify when any new car is extortionately priced. Time moves on and prices increase, Ashtons would be all but level price-wise with Inspired frames today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 yeah and in 1952 £5,000 could buy a house so that argument is irrelevant as everything has moved on from then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) That is exactly the point Skoze is making. Edited July 28, 2015 by JD™ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 yeah but £400 pounds in 1952 isn't £400 pounds in todays money in todays money that's £9000 so its not comparable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Still exactly the point Skoze is making. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html So an ET24 would be about £425 in today's money. I think that makes the Inspired look fecking cheap! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 calm down guys he vapes check his hobbies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The one piece bottom bracket Inspired use on their aluminium frame should be something other companies follow on from, it sells itself. I am going to be riding something that hasn't got that and if/when I snap it I know that it will be in this area where as just having that one piece bottom bracket would at the very minimum double the life span of that frame for myself. Pointed out by a friend but the new range of forks (if you buy individually) now come with a shorter steer tube which is a major step back seen as the Inspired forks appeal to riders for having that extra bit. Would that be something Inspired would be willing to go back to? I know I am not the only rider running over 200mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's just the Fourplay fork - the Arcade forks are still 235mm if you buy them aftermarket. Because of the new steerer on the Fourplay forks I'm not sure if they have the same ability to make multiple lengths of steerer tube so I'd imagine they'll only be in complete bike spec length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's just the Fourplay fork - the Arcade forks are still 235mm if you buy them aftermarket. Because of the new steerer on the Fourplay forks I'm not sure if they have the same ability to make multiple lengths of steerer tube so I'd imagine they'll only be in complete bike spec length. They're going to continue to make the element forks also? Having that choice is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I would assume so - I think either the Element or a similar level/spec fork will be fitted to the lower end bikes in the range, so that could potentially end up being an aftermarket fork. I don't really know too much about what their range plan is for the future though so we'll see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 calm down guys he vapes check his hobbies This Was Absolutely Typical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 This Was Absolutely Typical I'm really glad you put that in bold it would have been really hard to see otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) yeah you see that word everwhere you look at i suppose,wouldnt´ve made a difference but hey sorry now i am slating your "hobby" Edited August 16, 2015 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 No you aren't? Sweet month-delay zinger too. In related Console news, the Console Fuse has been launched - it features the same frame, fork and wheelset but with the Fuse finishing kit, making it much more affordable than the standard Console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Are they bringing out a new Console as on the inspired site there is no mention of the complete or the frame anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 They really dont need to because the green one is perfect apart from the colour, the green is imo. The blue of the first one was lovely. A similar blue but translucent would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk24 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 I don't mind the colour to be honest, one thing I wish they did though was produce the console and arcade without graphics and include a sticker set for people who choose if and where they would want to put them. I think steel skinny tubed steel frames be it dirt jump or trials look so much cleaner without any graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 That green f**king ruled, your eyes are wrong Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 What's the deal with Danny's blacked out Skye? I noticed in Ali's VLog from the Skye demo. Proto or what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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