Herbertlemon102 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Yup, looks good. Try it off something higher so your rear wheel doesn't bounce off the floor I have put it in slow mo and can confirm the rear wheel very very slightly skims the ground, not enough to effect the distance gapped hard to find anything good where I live, this is why group rides are awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's all about timing. In a pinch gap you get your body moving before you kick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Come ride Leeds Sunday buddy It's all about timing. In a pinch gap you get your body moving before you kick. I think this may have changed my life Alex!! Just realised when I've tried them before. The bike always flicks out from underneath me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Come ride Leeds Sunday buddy I think this may have changed my life Alex!! Just realised when I've tried them before. The bike always flicks out from underneath me Zachary argrave just told me, the Coventry crew are riding sunday, location to be decided, and I'm trying to drag them all up to Leeds! Haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's all about timing. In a pinch gap you get your body moving before you kick.It's all about timing. In a pinch gap you get your body moving before you kick. you also just changed my life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliotti Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 So... cause the power come from the spring of the tire and not from the pedal kick? Will this gave you more distance on the gap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 It's a weird one to explain but you don't really 'pedal' on the kick, its more lots of pressure on the pedals pressing backwards into the ledge you're taking off from. Distance comes from you jumping forward not the pedal being moved forward by the stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 What I found that really helps me is to instead of relying on my pedals at all, I just "push" the bike downwards and bend my knees (not my hip) so I imagine I'm jumping mainly with the help of my quads instead of hips. Then jump but putting focus on the pedal itself, the pedal just gives you the LAST extra push, I mean LAST because that's the last thing you should work on, throw yourself first and THEN try to pedal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 It's a weird one to explain but you don't really 'pedal' on the kick, its more lots of pressure on the pedals pressing backwards into the ledge you're taking off from. Distance comes from you jumping forward not the pedal being moved forward by the stroke. A bit like a side hop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yeah pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I am also trying to master this technique. Is this somewhat acceptable? http://videos-static-1.mtb-news.de/videos/8/0/7/7/2/1/_/video/08.03.15_79e546_5421cc-h.m4v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliotti Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's ok keep going to it, i think you just need to get a little bit closer to the edge. When you do this gap, the force that throw you away its the one of the edge (if i'm not mistaken haha i'm learning it too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzyyyy Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 A very good explaination on Trashzen: http://www.trashzen.com/pedal-kick-gap-jump.php(lower on the page) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 *sorry to pick on your video but it's just for demonstration purposes* Now look at the knees and hip bent in Pavel's preload, both femurs are in the same angle in relation to his torso. He also has his cranks almost parallel to the ground, because he is the one that will jump (he will throw himself, he won't push the bike) and the least emphasis he's putting there is how strong he will kick that pedal. If you look to the other video you will see that both legs are bent differently in the preload, and that the cranks are a bit steeper than a 45° angle in relationship to the ground. If you take off like that then inevitably you will have to kick the pedal a lot and most of your emphasis is going to how hard and fast you can kick that pedal. It's like you want to spin the back wheel really fast with that kick so that the speed at which you make the wheel spin will be the one that will give you the distance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 That's a great explanation, thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Yeah! But what I'm surprised about is that you actually jump off the top of the edge and don't really push from the front of the edge or at least this is what it looks like. edit: Found out today that if you find a small edge to jump off from, you always get the position right as there's not enough space to be too far from the edge. Takes away one issue. Edited March 15, 2015 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliotti Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Yep, i am practicing it and some tube's to learn the jump... It's a strange feeling after a 2 years of only using the pedals and not the bounce of the tyre haha And i think it helps alot record yourself to see your position and your bad postures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Well I went out today again to try and learn it but I think I jump off way too far from the edge. I don't know why but when I go nearer to the edge, my wheel drops down instead of jumping far. http://mtbn.ws/vva0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsquirt Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Well I went out today again to try and learn it but I think I jump off way too far from the edge. I don't know why but when I go nearer to the edge, my wheel drops down instead of jumping far. http://mtbn.ws/vva0. I think your problem is not getting your weight far back enough when you preload for the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 . I think your problem is not getting your weight far back enough when you preload for the gap. So I should go closer to the edge and squat more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsquirt Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Yes exactly... just keep trying until it feels natural 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Squat more! Refer to the picture I know it's super hard to get used to, like Bruno (Sulliotti) said, after years of using your pedals it will be tricky to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Good thing that I've just recently started to learn those gaps. Have been riding for 1 3/4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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