jeff costello Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 i've ripped out the brake cable of my 2014 hs33 a few times now, so i had to fix the hosing. my brake came with 3 barbed fittings on the slaves (shroud nut and olive on the lever) - 2x m8, 1x m6. without giving it much thought, i've just hammered the old barbs into the new hose. is there anything wrong with that? maybe even dangerous? also, i wanted to order some spares because i don't want to be left with a non-working brake. i can't find m8 barbed fittings anywhere. am i supposed to use shrouds and olives instead? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Re-using the barbed fittings is fine If you're breaking hoses a lot then a shroud nut and olive would probably be better for you as they're easier to fit. Might be worth wrapping your hoses with some electrical/insulating tape near where they join the fittings to try and maybe reinforce them a bit? It might help out a little bit, at least... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 electrical tape is a good idea! i was planning on getting a hose splitter and rout the cable on the inside of the seat stays, fixing them with some cable binders. and also get a brake booster. is there any reason the m8 barbed fittings aren't available to buy anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don't think they do M8 barbed fittings do they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 A splitter would be a good shout if you've got the option to route it like that The M8 barbed fittings probably aren't readily available because most Magura importers/distros are absolutely shocking. EDIT: If you're getting a splitter and you break hoses often, going Trialtech would probably be best as fitting/removing hoses is way easier because you can just take the barbed fitting out of the splitter and work on the hose individually without having to hack it off the end of the integrated fitting you get on some splitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) If you're breaking hoses a lot then a shroud nut and olive would probably be better for you as they're easier to fit. this means that the m8 port of the slave can take both, the barb and the shroud&olive? If you're getting a splitter and you break hoses often, going Trialtech would probably be best as fitting/removing hoses is way easier because you can just take the barbed fitting out of the splitter and work on the hose individually without having to hack it off the end of the integrated fitting you get on some splitters. yes! was planning to do just that. Edited January 14, 2015 by jeff costello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldred_85 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Would there not also be an issue with sealing. The m8 hole is designed to seal with olive deformation rather than edges of thread faces. Im not certain, just a reasonable assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 <insert OBM Belm Of The Day image here> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldred_85 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 You can use whichever one you want - it's the same as it was with their M6/M6 cylinders where you could use the fitting of your choice. Do you mean i can use olive in m6 too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Brain fail on my part But yeah, you can use either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldred_85 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Does anyone know why magura changed their cylinder? Always used to be m8/m6 one side, m6/m6 on other. Looking on tarty bikes crossovers are now barbed one side and olive on other. Wouldnt this mean is m8/m6 and m8/m6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Presumably so they can just pump out one type of cylinder I guess? Makes life easier for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldred_85 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Always thinking of themselves.. Selfish germans.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 i've mentioned in the "worst screwups" thread that i've killed my lever bleed screw. the plastic one. the head totally crumbled to pieces, but the bottom is still stuck in there. is there anything i can do to repair that? or do i have to throw out the lever? ( i already ordered a replacement lever which should arrive tomorrow, so i can keep riding. but i'd still like to fix the old one to keep as a spare) one guy on here mentioned the re-cut the threads with a tap. is that the only way? i have zero experience using a tap. i wouldn't even know what kind of tool i should get. should i send it back to the bike shop i bought the brakes from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 M8 barbed fittings don't seem to be available separately, but I'm sure we have a few somewhere that have come off full brakes (they are fitted to all the new brakes). They seal on the internal taper where the olive would normally do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 GOT IT OUT!!! for once plastic was a good thing. i heated up the tip of a flathead screwdriver with a candle. then i pressed it into the remains of the old bleed screw. it created a new groove which was enough to unscrew the stump. very happy now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Result. Cheapskate twats making stuff out of plastic, they've ruined their brakes doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldred_85 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Result. Cheapskate twats making stuff out of plastic, they've ruined their brakes doing that Must admit i've been put off buying new magura stuff. Especially the Carbotecture levers. I dont care how strong their tests say it is. A short Google search brought up numerous stripped threads, oil leaks, and one sheered lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thing is, that's also true for any brake ever used on a trials bike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldred_85 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thing is, that's also true for any brake ever used on a trials bike. Still think i prefer alu, takes regular threads, repairable to a degree.. Helicoils, over sized threads. But the breakages and issues i've seen have been more XC whippet types. Has anyone else seen that youtube video with a MT8 seaping oil out of the weight saving holes at the back of the lever. Literally looks like someone squeezing a sponge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) I know a lad from away that had this happen to a racing line master/full brake - the split clamp one not the (trials addict list it as the LS7?) 05 maggie improvement I have. Where it was machined in between the bar clamp bolts like hope do, the tool must have gone too deep by a fraction, made the wall thickness weak and it seeped out over period but increasing got worse . Its a pain I know, and I have been on the wrong end of it often enough, but that is what warranties are designed for; that one in a thousand where no visual QC inspection could have spotted it. Having said that, in the world of bikes, some of the stuff that arrives though my door I feel is appalling at times. If a brand burns me like that soon become very stubborn about their products, and I'll be the first to admit it too. I too, am becoming like this about magura's later/latest offerings. Edited January 18, 2015 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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