Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) SO WE PUT A HOPES IN YO HOPES SO YOU CAN BRAKE WHILE U BRAKE Hope brakes discussion thread. As promised I'll right some review about different hopes. Edited October 14, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) At first I want to notice that V4's with braided hoses are pretty light: 321g front and 347g rear. I expected V4's to be far more heavy. For example same M4's(tech 2 EVO braided) weights 299g frond and 322g rear, not so big difference. So you can ignore weight when choosing between V4/E4/M4 because V4 are the most powerful Hope brakes ever so you can use smaller rotors and no problem. Even 160 must be enough. About construction, TECH 3 levers are really step forward from TECH 2. Construction is more rational, compact and lighter than TECH 2 EVO. About 5% more power, It seems that it's because of different lever blade geo, because master cylinder are the same. Also TECH3 lever blade is better in terms of keeping your fingers not chopped, it's made a little better. The only "con" is that levers are no more universal. About lever feel and working, honestly it's like TECH 2 EVO, but lighter and a little more comfy. Modulation, breaking power are brilliant on both TECH 2 EVO and TECH 3. Aesthetically I love both, TECH 3 is more elegant, when TECH 2 is more brutal. I don't know who are complaining about locking power and bite and creates SAINTS WORSHIP :bow: , but even with M4 203 rotors are total overkill, TECH 3 V4 + 203 rotors are Satan brakes. Saints? f**k'em they are history and has no spares. Even M4 with 203 feels like maggie with fresh gring. E4 are a little better and powerful than M4 and V4 are insane. And one more thing, you don't need nothing than a standard pads with 4-pot hope brakes. Don't know should I try this fancy "trialzone" (idiotic name for a brake imo) that are just V2's with race lever (so they must be called V2 RACE EVO). Some people saying that without special pads they are not so good. I see only one really good thing about them - weight for those who cares about it.. Edited October 14, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 And what about steel frames(Console), they are better survive huge rotors or not? 180/183 woud the best choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I disagree with most of that. I'd never trust them on a drop gap or 10ft bunny hop gap. The bite is not quite saint standard either and one crash will end up with the rotors scraping and being noisy. Add the pad rock and it makes being on the back wheel even more vague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 There are no more saints, they are total shit (new ones) and old ones that were good are almost fossils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 There are no more saints, they are total shit (new ones) and old ones that were good are almost fossils. Have you actually used a set of Saints? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How Original Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Got to admit the Hope Mono 6Ti I had was that good I can't see how anything could be better. Any more bite and overall grip and it would feel either completely on or completely off IMO. I've not used Saint, so I won't bash them in any way, but for me, the 6Ti was a beast of a brake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Have you actually used a set of Saints? No, but I know that old ones are good and new ones are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 No, but I know that old ones are good and new ones are shit. Flol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I don't care, for me hope>shimano anyway, shimano are cheap, casted, and calipers are breaking like cookies. Plus this is idiotic mineral oil brake, there are no advantages, this is stupid to use mineral oil instead of DOT. And it looks like cheap crap. Also shimano is a rod making company, lol. Edited October 14, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 You must have some serious issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete.M Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Don't suppose anyone has tried MT5's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Wrong "kinda want my hopes back, saints brake easily" sorry what you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Bloody hell man don't wanna go scratching your bars putting too many brakes on. before U WOZ CRI NOW U LYK #YOLO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Edited October 14, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Or sram rsc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 avid/sram same shit. cheap poor quality brakes. even worse than shimano rods. magura.. my hs33 leaks like a bitch so I don't trust magura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc.Jokie. Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 saint m810 till i die!! i have a hope and a saint, and when i was forced to use my hope (long story) i hated it so much i took it off and went all luke cockshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 saint m810 till i die!! i have a hope and a saint, and when i was forced to use my hope (long story) i hated it so much i took it off and went all luke cockshot. What hope you have and what's wrong with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 "kinda want my hopes back, saints brake easily" sorry what you say? That he's wrong, they are definitely not shit, things break, doesn't mean they are crap. I meant more as spares, hope for build quality, shimano for actual use for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 ahhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 BB7 f**k all your hopes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 BB7 f**k all your hopes. On the rear as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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