Herbertlemon102 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 In this case, pad rock! There's a fair bit of it going on here. Retaining pin moves laterally too. The noise it makes, the "clunk" I'm sure can be fixed with some copper grease, but I'm thinking something's up with my retaining pin? I'm not used to dual disc so it may be my paranoia but it's always good to know. Usually run magura on the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 What brake is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 shimano deore or slx i'd assume.you'll get pad noise with nearly every shimano brake,its normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Didn't realise bike manufacturers still used split pins for pad retention?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Didn't realise bike manufacturers still used split pins for pad retention?! Up to SLX/ZEE Shimano still does even though you've got the option of buying a retention screw*; the thread is there. As Peter said, pad rock is there and normal. You won't believe how noisy my Zee was. *And, contrary to what is said on this forum, the pad knock doesn't get better with the screw. It's still better upgrading when riding trials as the split pin might fall out. Had this problem so I know what I'm talking about. Edited October 11, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsbikingnunn Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Up to SLX/ZEE Shimano still does even though you've got the option of buying a retention screw*; the thread is there. As Peter said, pad rock is there and normal. You won't believe how noisy my Zee was. *And, contrary to what is said on this forum, the pad knock doesn't get better with the screw. It's still better upgrading when riding trials as the split pin might fall out. Had this problem so I know what I'm talking about. if your split pin is falling out then you're doing something wrong 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 if your split pin is falling out then you're doing something wrong Not when your the forums self appointed brake expert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 they cant fall out if you bend the ends to like 90° each and theyre there only for retention,if you use a piece of wire its holding up to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) they cant fall out if you bend the ends to like 90° each Well, I didn't think it was necessary so it came out. For XC riding there's no need to do it. Edited October 12, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 What brake is it? shimano Deore, yep.shimano deore or slx i'd assume.you'll get pad noise with nearly every shimano brake,its normal would putting copper grease on the pad backings stop the creaking/clunking noise? I'll just have to get used to the rock I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) I'll just have to get used to the rock I guess I wouldn't put any grease near my brakes. The pad rock (noise) gets less but never ceases completely. Edited October 12, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Copper grease on the pad backings, it's usually the standard thing to do? If you manage to get copper grease on the pads when you're putting it on the backings, there's something wrong there I wouldn't put any grease near my brakes. The pad rock (noise) gets less but never ceases completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsbikingnunn Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Well, I didn't think it was necessary so it came out. For XC riding there's no need to do it. are you retarded? the whol point in a split pin is that you split it so it wont fall out and your pads dont fall out, whatever kind of riding you do you definitly need to split the pin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 are you retarded? the whol point in a split pin is that you split it so it wont fall out and your pads dont fall out, whatever kind of riding you do you definitly need to split the pin You sound like a 15 year old hiding behind his computer insulting people. The split pin comes split already just not in a 90° angle so I didn't see the reason to split it further. I was wrong, end of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 So basically it's not a problem, there is no need to buy a new retention pin, it's just you're a retard and didn't work out that an unbent bit of metal might fall out of a larger diameter hole. Case closed m'lady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) So basically it's not a problem, there is no need to buy a new retention pin, it's just you're a retard and didn't work out that an unbent bit of metal might fall out of a larger diameter hole. Case closed m'lady. Have you ever had a Shimano brake in your hands? It comes with the pin already bent, just not in a 90° angle. So for XC racing it's pretty much retard proof. Edited October 13, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Have you ever had a Shimano brake in your hands? It comes with the pin already bent, just not in a 90° angle. So for XC racing it's pretty much retard proof. Yet you still lost one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yet you still lost one. Riding TRIALS not trails (a.k.a. XC). Read before you write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatpro09 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 What difference does that make? Surely XC would be more likely to knock one out anyway because of all of the rattling going over bumps and the likes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Quick return to the thread, pogo fixed it by putting 3 layers of insulation tape on my pad backings, so the pistons would cut groves for themselves to sit in the tape, and therefore they no longer rock. Hooray! Now, who were we insulting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Oh and I have held a shimano brake in my hands when it was new, and the first thing I did was bend the pins 90 degrees cuz that shit is dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Riding TRIALS not trails (a.k.a. XC). Read before you write. It makes no difference what style your riding. If a split pin isn't bent, regardless of its application it will fall out. Split pins don't need to be bent to 90degress to stop them falling out. They only need to be open up to about the same size as the split pin head. Personally I like to bend them nicely around the pin. Split pins have no use on a bicycle regardless of brands. There just a cheap and nasty way of holding things in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The name says it all, Split Pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I've put a nice stainless steel bolt through mine with a nylock nut on the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I've put a nice stainless steel bolt through mine with a nylock nut on the end wrapping duct tape around the pun works too, so I've heard. I believe most/all shimano brakes have a thread on the pin hole so you can remove the pun and replace it with a bolt if you wanted to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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