Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Kings are not considered because they are skips. Or not? What about street ones? Edited September 28, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hope geared ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've heard that Profile is good enouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've heard that Profile is good enouth. Nah mate. I stripped the driver ring out of one, and I'm not that heavy a rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Any hub if you are any of the following, French Ride for Ozonys Like to take the "Trials" out of "Street trials" I went there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Nah mate. I stripped the driver ring out of one, and I'm not that heavy a rider This one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Not a bulb. Had to get that shit sent back every few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Lol, maybe if we all will sending this shit back every few months they get that something wrong with their hubs and make them better? I don't get why only 1 manufacturer can produce really heavy duty hubs. when other hubs costs even twice+ more and are total shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 No. Profile mini cassette hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 DT Swiss has a single speed hub. Don't know about the engagements though. The profile with its 204 engagement points is prone to break under trials use. There's just not enough material left for a pawl to sit or am I mistaken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 the dt 240s has only 18 engagements,upgradeable to 36 with different ratchet rings,a joke. and aluminium cassette body. not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 It seems that Hope is our only hope. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) in fact theyre the non-plus-ultra for heavy duty use.i've never had a hub that lasted as long as my hope.mines going strong for the 3rd year,only thing i've changed so far is putting new axle bearings in. maybe some day i'll get myself an 80t hubshell for my existing hub.other than that no complaints,it just works. Edited September 29, 2014 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Kings are not considered because they are skips. Not if you bed them in properly and service them fairly regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Not if you bed them in properly and service them fairly regularly. But they costs 2.5+ times more than hope. Costs more and needs more attention. Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yeah. Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 But they costs 2.5+ times more than hope. Costs more and needs more attention. Hmmm... Mine has lasted 13 years, pretty good value. Mine started skipping a little recently but I hadn't serviced it for around two years, spent a couple of hours cleaning the internals and lubing it properly. Works great again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yeah. Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford... Absolutely not. Ferrari are better than Ford in everything. Kings are not. Especially with new 80T hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Absolutely not. Ferrari are better than Ford in everything. Kings are not. Especially with new 80T hopes. Well that remains to be seen. The new Hopes haven't been around for enough time to see whether they are better than the Kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Absolutely not. Ferrari are better than Ford in everything. Kings are not. Especially with new 80T hopes. What about maintenance costs and service intervals? That was exactly my point...But they costs 2.5+ times more than hope. Costs more and needs more attention. Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 You're complaining about the cost of a King when you've bought multiple sets of disc brakes that you find cheap? You post so much shit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 You're complaining about the cost of a King when you've bought multiple sets of disc brakes that you find cheap? You post so much shit. So he says only seen one set so far, let's see the rest fitted and used and some opinions on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Just get an old King hub and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) You're complaining about the cost of a King when you've bought multiple sets of disc brakes that you find cheap? You post so much shit. If I pay money I want the best. It seems that Kings are not the best, because alot of people saying that they skips. Alright, I'll try one. Which one is better for trials? Edited September 29, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 All of the king internals are identical, you will want the HD axle/funbolts and probably the stainless steel driveshell upgrades if the hub doesn't come with them. There are reports of newer kings not being as reliable as old ones, how much of this is due to not bedding them in or not I don't know. If new, they need a good time installed on a bike to bed in properly, best to put it on a mountainbike or roadbike for a couple of months before subjecting it to trials forces, this allows the helical splines to bed in together and the driverings to engage fully. If you start riding trials straight away on it you may risk the driverings not engaging fully before full torque is applied resulting in skipping, if this happens you will start to burr the teeth on the rings and effectively ruin the hub. Buy a second hand one that is known to be good for trials and you should have no issues. I got my king second hand off ben travis 10 years ago and it has NEVER skipped, I pop the drive shell out every so often, clean the splines with a toothbrush and relube with a little finishline xc wet and it's all good. The design is very good for trials, as long as the spline is free (clean and not binding) then the more torque you put through the drive the more it will engage as it all works in compression against the axle tieing the whole lot together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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