James281098 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 What is better folding bead which uses Kevlar or wire bead tyres? Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotchy Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 On my BMX I've gone through 3 sets of tyres which were wire beads, and the only reason I had to replace them was because they got eggs cause the beads stretched and tore the tyre, I've now got folding kevlar Fit FAF's had them for about a month now and so far no problems, which is longer than my old KHE's did. So I'd say kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 On my BMX I've gone through 3 sets of tyres which were wire beads, and the only reason I had to replace them was because they got eggs cause the beads stretched and tore the tyre, I've now got folding kevlar Fit FAF's had them for about a month now and so far no problems, which is longer than my old KHE's did. So I'd say kevlar Cheers, so would you say table top tyres folding over the maxxis hollyroller wire bead? The table top will save me weight is why I am asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Holy rollers are more popular and common, I've not seen many tabletops about on trials bikes but I see them on dirt jump bikes. My mate tried a table top on his echo 24 for a week and it was puncture after puncture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatpro09 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have just gone from tabletops to holy rollers and they were alright for the money as long as you rode in the dry. A few times I was riding through my local shops in the wet and the front just slipped away... I wasn't victim to too many punctures either (lucky me!) The rollers are amazing so far, I have rode them a bit in both the wet and dry, on and off road and they just grip! Then again, the tabletops were only 2.25s compared to the 2.4 rollers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted August 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Is there a folding version of the holly rollers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotchy Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) I'm gonna be very contradicting here, but I'd actually say get the Rollers because they're amazing. They're great for literally everything. They're the definition of grip. Just be careful not to stretch the beads. Which most people I know seem to find hard to do anyway, maybe KHE's are just shit, or I'm just unlucky Edited August 3, 2014 by Hotchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 KHE tyres do f**king suck in fairness. They definitely went too much in the direction of making them as light as possible. Someone I knew had the kevlar one and it just exploded at random, which it seems they were fairly prone to doing. Their wire bead ones were a little stronger but still nothing amazing. Been running Holy Rollers front and rear for 4-5 years now - never had an issue with the beads. Only thing I've found is I've occasionally put a little tear in the sidewalls from rimming out really hard/rolling the tyre landing spins badly, but it's never anything major and doesn't kill the tyre off or anything (that said, I tend to run 20-30psi). The past two rear tyres I've had I've put a hole in the sidewall within a fortnight of putting them on but they just keep on working fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 The Tabletop if i'm thinking of the right tyre is gonna have the same thin sidewall as the HolyR. But with more spaced out grip. For pure street the Holy is better rolling but TT for more urban/dirt mix. Both pretty bad on rear for punxtures at low pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I run 65 psi so not sure anymore because the only time there is problem with either tyre is at low pressure? Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I'd say that neither folding nor wire beads have anything to do with the durability and performance of the tyre. The latter are just heavier, that's all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Some folding do have higher tpi, how many more tyres i don't know. But just something to be wary of. As i said OP. Holy for pure street. TT for some dirt grip too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Some folding do have higher tpi, how many more tyres i don't know. But just something to be wary of. As i said OP. Holy for pure street. TT for some dirt grip too. Why? Isn't higher TPI the better option? Edited August 5, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Higher the better. Stronger tyre and better puncture protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Higher the better. Stronger tyre and better puncture protection. That's what I was gonna say... Obviously, this technique is used more on lighter tires. That's why folding tires are usually better performance wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I've used table tops for a good while on my previous echo 24" on the front. Never ever had any punctures or grip problems with them at all! Get them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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