DaiTrials Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Hello all, Been riding for something like 12 years and in my old age (just hit the big 30) I want something a bit ore of an all rounder, so I just sold my 26" mod stock and plan to Buy a 24" I've narrowed it down to the following 3 options: Inspired Skye Team Inspired Arcade Ozonys King of Dunce V3 pro Light In the past I have owned two 24" steads... namely a 1st generation UK24 and a first germination Inspired Foreplay. I don have a bmx background but I am leaning towards the Inspired arcade. My fav 24" was the UK24 and my build was just over 10kg. I myself am only just over 10 stone and only 5ft 7" tall and I don't think I've ever come close to breaking a frame (apart from a mk1 justice - in profile pic) I can't find to much info on the pro light v3 king of Dunce. In theory I like the idea of a slightly lighter 24 rig but I'm concerned with the regards to the build quality, the parts and how are for example the Magura mt6's and also how does a freewheel ride on a 24" street set up? My concern with the inspired arcade on the other hand is that it will feel 1) a bit heavy (coming off a sub 10kg 26" mod stock and 2) a bit too bmx like I'm looking to learn more spiny moves and foot jam tail whips, and I'd also like to ride some park! However I don't want to end up with a bike that feels difficult to ride my established moves like wheel swaps and even side hops so I'm trying to find the prefect balance. On my UK24 manuals were like a dream too, which I think is another important quality.... where as my inspired foreplay felt less natural (possible due partly to a short hope stem - yet stem stacked as high as possible) The money is not really an issue as I just got a new contract in work and can really go for anyone in the next month, however if the consensus is on the ozonys It would be nice to save money too - I've seen it advertised in a huge range from 1300 a 2000 so picking one up for not much over a £1000 compared to dropping £2000 on an Arcade does need to be offset. All said, help!? Edited July 29, 2014 by DaiTrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) I would choose Arcade/Console with hanger, 22-17/12 gearing and hope brakes w/braided hose. Perfect for trials(#ihatepogosticks), street, park, dirt, commuting for ~50km and even some FR (urban and natural, but not Red Bull Rampage like of course, lol). Edited July 29, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum199922 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Where do you even get ozonys street bikes from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I would choose Arcade/Console with hanger, 22-17/12 gearing and hope brakes w/braided hose. Perfect for trials(#ihatepogosticks), street, park, dirt, commuting for ~50km and even some FR (urban and natural, but not Red Bull Rampage like of course, lol). Are you on drugs? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 if your gonna ride a skye, test one before you do... there lovely bikes, but so many people just cant ride them comfortably even though their height may not be an issue. im lucky that mine works for me but some people find them cramped Where do you even get ozonys street bikes from? i heard that if you see 3 rainbows in a row, you get one delivered to your bedroom door the next morning..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Are you on drugs? NO. I ride averagely 30km between spots every ride (except days I learn new tricks/focused on something) and see absolutely no problem. 50km is fine too. If you get seatpost extender: You can beat even 150km+ for 1 ride with it. But there are no need for me. I specially pointed out distance, considering street-trials is not so good for long distances(50km isn't long). FR hardtail like this: is perfect commuter for me, I can't just pedaling, I need to do every single drop/rail/BH on something... otherwise riding are pretty boring for me. Edited July 30, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Please ignore clerit he is tf resident looney. i cant say much for the fourplay as i haven't riden one. i did have a quick go on the skye st tartydays it rode real nice but it was short and the ozonys all i can say is i ride one as my own bike its lovely but it has taken a good while to get back into wheel swops on the lower bb bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Please ignore clerit he is tf resident looney. Any arguments? What was wrong from what I said? Edited July 30, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 50km is like 30 miles, I'll be surprised to see anyone ride a trials bike/bmx over 10mph for that distance. That equals to 3 hours. Again, are you on drugs? Especially with that seat post extender.... Nearly spat out my cereal haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I can confidently say that 30km is nothing for one ride. It's just normal. I leave the house, move to one spot, ride there until get bored, then move to another one. And here we have a ~30km line around the city. Plus I do something on the run, like stairs drops, BHs on/over obstacles, manuals, stoppies, 360s, anything you can do on the run. Don't know why you and few others have BATHTUB because of that. I ride this way and I'm happy. 22-12 for moving between spots and pure street(considering that it's 1.83 and 24 street-trials wheels almost like 26 XC you can get some really nice speed). On spots I set 22-17 and do more trialsy stuff. Edited July 30, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Hi from one arcade owner to a comming arcade/console owner... 1. it doesnt feel heavy at all (even though its approx 12kg.) 2. its just awsome for all round riding(street, park and trials(but not as great as a 26" pure, especialy rolling stuf)) (but i do come from a bmx back ground). But for the type of riding you describe it should be spot on.. 3. i find there is a lot of room when on the bike and im 191cm, running 35deg/70mm stem and 3" riser bars... 4. NOT having a hanger is perfect no more fiddeling with chain tensioner, the chain device on the arcade works flawless (Set and go, my wheel has stayed in the same position for ½ a year) 5. currently running 22/16 gearing feels good on the bike... just my 2 cents.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I've ridden the latest generation Fourplay and they're beautiful. Everything feels spot on and comfortable I'm 5' 8" so I'm similar height to yourself. The one I rode was Mr David Marshalls green fourplay and it was pretty much out of the box and it felt perfect. Geo wise it very similar to the 24UK. Can't comment on either of the others because I haven't ridden them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatpro09 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) The new element frame is exactly the same as the current fourplay geometry wise, except cheaper. This doesn't mean that inspired have cut corners because they definitely haven't. Mine feels solid and rides beautifully! You could buy the standard spec element for half the price of the arcade, then pimp it to the max with the remaining grand you'd have spent on the arcade In my opinion, the new element rides so well, plus it has the option for a rear disc! I have no doubt that the arcade is amazing, and I must admit that I fancy one myself, but I am not a good enough rider to really feel the benefit of a slight geometry difference Edited July 30, 2014 by onzatpro09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiTrials Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks for all the advice and suggestions. Following all that and some other research I am now leaning even more heavily towards the Inspired Arcade.... I found that you can save 15% of it's price tag by purchasing it through free flow bikes, or alternately you can also get 0% finance with them over two years with just a 10% deposit. 15% off the Arcade makes it £1690.65 I'm gonna probably go for it within the next two weeks but I'd be an idiot for not checking first... Can anyone find it cheaper or beat this price? Is there ANY chance at all of picking one up second hand? Maybe someone has bought one and hasn't got on with it, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMTRIALS123 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I doubt anyone would be selling one and even if they did, it would still be very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Hi from one arcade owner to a comming arcade/console owner... 1. it doesnt feel heavy at all (even though its approx 12kg.) 2. its just awsome for all round riding(street, park and trials(but not as great as a 26" pure, especialy rolling stuf)) (but i do come from a bmx back ground). But for the type of riding you describe it should be spot on.. 3. i find there is a lot of room when on the bike and im 191cm, running 35deg/70mm stem and 3" riser bars... 4. NOT having a hanger is perfect no more fiddeling with chain tensioner, the chain device on the arcade works flawless (Set and go, my wheel has stayed in the same position for ½ a year) 5. currently running 22/16 gearing feels good on the bike... just my 2 cents.. I've got the Arcade frame kit built up with primarily Skye Mk1 parts and agree with all of that. I rode 'proper' trials demos on it at the weekend and wasn't far off what the other guys were doing on pogo sticks but it's also happy blasting round a pump track or at the skate park. Thanks for all the advice and suggestions. Following all that and some other research I am now leaning even more heavily towards the Inspired Arcade.... I found that you can save 15% of it's price tag by purchasing it through free flow bikes, or alternately you can also get 0% finance with them over two years with just a 10% deposit. 15% off the Arcade makes it £1690.65 I'm gonna probably go for it within the next two weeks but I'd be an idiot for not checking first... Can anyone find it cheaper or beat this price? Is there ANY chance at all of picking one up second hand? Maybe someone has bought one and hasn't got on with it, etc? I also got the frame kit from Free Flow and they were really good and if it's of any interest (pun intended) the 0% can be done on up to 36 months. I did 18 months on the frame kit just because I could. Out of interest where does the 15% discount come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 The Console bikes are due to be with dealers in the next few days, so if you wanted to save a bit of money you could maybe try one of those? All but the same frame/fork as the Arcade, same bar and stem, same crankset, etc. just with a different wheelset and brakes. I can't imagine trying to ride street with a 22:17 ratio. EDIT: Is that some kind of discount code for 15% off with Freeflow? 15% off with 0% finance and free delivery is pretty nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 The Console bikes are due to be with dealers in the next few days What about the frame kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivian-Trial Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Anything is possible if you are Russian. Very talented people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Whatever you decide just make sure it has plastic pedals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I can't imagine trying to ride street with a 22:17 ratio. Lolwhy? Sean no only can imagine but actually can ride with 16:14. Anything is possible if you are Russian. Very talented people Sarcastic or not, but Russia is a country of opportunities. You can start like a poor student that have money only for potato and oatmeal and then find yourself driving brand new LX570 or G55 a year later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Whatever you decide just make sure it has plastic pedals. Lol. Plastic pedals are really must have imo. After few weeks of riding I can conclude that: 1) Grip are absolutely same. Even in wet. 2) They are more comfy than echo (contact area is larger). 3) My shins are came so many times because of impact with nylon pedals are absolutely nothing in front of SHIM SLASHING BONE CRASHING RAZOR-SHARP ECHO that makes so many holes in your leg you don't have time to count them. 4) No problems like OHMUHGHODH!11 PINS ARE TOO WEAK AND THEY break off in TЕH first ride!11 So yes, plastic pedals are solution of many problems Edited July 30, 2014 by Clerictgm mk2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Lolwhy? Sean no only can imagine but actually can ride with 16:14. He used to, but now rides a harder gear ratio (in the same way Ben Rowlands used to run something nuts like 18:16 but now runs 22:14). 22:16 felt too light for me, so going even lighter would suck yet more "this rollback feels like shit" dick, probably with a side of "I can't put any power into this gap" balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerictgm mk2 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well, I'll try then all range from 17 to 14, some trialtech sprockets lying around in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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