niconj Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 My Because 24'' has a wheelbase of 1040, an Echo 24'' has 1050 and a Rockman Radix V2 1075, which is almost what 26'' bikes have. I read that people. were complaining about wheelbases getting shorter on Echo frames. How does it affect riding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartMini Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 If my memorys right: short = flicky long = stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Wheelbase doesn't really effect anything other than what a bike will fit 'on' and 'between' Reach and chainstay length are far more important on how a bike will actually feel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Wheelbase doesn't really effect anything other than what a bike will fit 'on' and 'between' Reach and chainstay length are far more important on how a bike will actually feel How does this affect riding then? Because: 367 Echo: 360 Rockman: 368 Edited June 25, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 a bike with shorter stays pops up better onto the rear wheel,but feels less stable when its there. and vice versa basically. the other thing is the correlation between cs,reach and bb rise,if you change one thing the other will react differently too,despite their own measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack dickinson Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 well i i found my radix was to long when i ran 150x 30 stem and tt high rise bars. i now run a 127 x 30 stem and tt highrise bars. and im 6 ft3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMTRIALS123 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Does having a longer wheelbase make it harder for bunnyhops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Does having a longer wheelbase make it harder for bunnyhops? depends on if your wheelbase is based on short reach and long chainstays or the other way round.or even something in between.you cant see frame measurements as isolated factors,it all plays together. next thing would be setup,a long wheelbase bike with short cs and a streety stem would bunnyhop better than ta streety bike with a trialsy stem imo Edited June 25, 2014 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMTRIALS123 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 So what about my ZOO! ? http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/187861-zoo-pitbull-05/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) i wouldnt say its exactly like a bunnyhop machine in that setup,but hey! i've seen people doing 360s on pure comp bikes,why not? joking aside,your frame is pretty oldskool geo'ed,so it should be at least way easier than on a recent comp frame Edited June 25, 2014 by FamilyBiker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 well i i found my radix was to long when i ran 150x 30 stem and tt high rise bars. i now run a 127 x 30 stem and tt highrise bars. and im 6 ft3 What did you ride before? 127x30 seems very short for your height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack dickinson Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 150 x 30 i ran before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 150 x 30 i ran before I meant the frame you rode before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexClare94 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 What did you ride before? 127x30 seems very short for your height. On my latest build I'll be running a 165 x 25 stem on my GU 26" and I'm 6ft3.. Here's the spec for the gu frame...Wheelbase: 1095mm Chainstay Length: 380mm BB Rise: 70mm Head Angle: 71 degreesOn my latest build I'll be running a 165 x 25 stem on my GU 26" and I'm 6ft3.. Here's the spec for the gu frame...Wheelbase: 1095mm Chainstay Length: 380mm BB Rise: 70mm Head Angle: 71 degrees Anyone reckon this will feel too big to ride for a lad of my height? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack dickinson Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I meant the frame you rode before. an onza comp. before that an echo pure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 One question still. What does longer reach do to the handling of the bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) As pretty much said, wheelbase by itself doesn't really affect the the handling of a trials bike. It's how the wheelbase is made up short/long chainstays, reach, head angle and BB height. Using wheelbase as a measuring stick to compare frames is pretty useless when it comes to trials. I'll ask a question; why are you trying to find out? I mean is it purely to understand what influence wheelbase has on a trials bike and the way it rides? Or are you trying to compare something? Edited June 27, 2014 by craigjames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Or are you trying to compare something? Comparing: Nr. 1 Wheelbase: 1040mm BB rise: 60mm Chainstays: 367mm Head tube angle: 72* Head tube length: 110mm Reach: 640mm with Nr. 2 Wheelbase: 1050mm BB rise: 70mm Chainstays: 360mm Head tube angle: 72* Head tube length: 105mm Reach: 650mm Edited June 27, 2014 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) nr 1 would be the sligthly streetier one and nr 2 slightly rear wheel friendlier. if set up in the way the geos are pointing.but marginal differences overall.you could setup both bikes to ride nearly the same. Edited June 27, 2014 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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