aener Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I got backed into a corner by certain circumstances, and decided to try my luck. Lots of trigonometry later, I have a lovely new frame to ride Geometry (which I am staggered to say I have gotten within 1mm of what I was aiming for!) is: Reach - 585mm HA - 73° WB - 950 BB - +65 CS - 350 FAO welders: feel 100% free to think it, but you really needn't bother telling me how horrible the welds are - I already know! This has been my first welding project, so was learning how to do it (how effectively remains to be seen) on the job. It turns out that what I thought was clean steel wasn't nearly clean enough, which is why the earlier joints have a lot of spatter, and the ones I did last are comparatively neat. I didn't take close-ups, just to avoid you lot calling me out on it If you're looking at doing something like this and want to know prices for materials: about £60. Of course I couldn't buy exactly the bits I needed - had to buy 3m or 6m lengths so I have a lot left over, but the proportion I've used compared to what I paid overall works out at about £60. All tubing is plain-gauge, 1.22mm wall welded mild steel, and dropouts are just some 6mm steel plate Adam had lying around. Fully integrated headtube and Spanish BB came from Solid Bikes. Couldn't find anywhere UK based that would supply them so had to get them from America. Again - to get my money's worth, I ordered 3 headtube and 3 BB shells which they can fit into a flat rate parcel, which is $25 to ship. They worked out at being around £10 per tube. Frame weight is just a touch shy of 2.4kg, which I don't think is bad at all for saying how un-weight conscious the tubing is. I've also dropped something in the region of 160g by having an integrated headset rather than a Pig, so in terms of overall weight change, it's only about 200g heavier than what I had before. Was so excited to get riding that I didn't think to get a full-bike weight. Somewhere between 9kg and 9.2kg though, at a guess. Apologies for the spiel - pretty damn stoked that it actually worked out! Muchas gracias to Ben Slinger for bending the chainstays/seatstays for me, and an even bigger thanks to Adam Read for advice, tips, help and moral support ( ) through the process! (Snail cams on the outside due to a cock-up that I still don't understand. Had a 116mm spacer between dropouts whilst welding, took spacer out afterwards and it snapped shut to 110mm. Anyone got an explanation for this, and how to avoid it next time?) Had my first ride on her today and I'm in love already. Seemingly just as good for the more power-based stuff as my previous geometry and nicer for streety stuff. Certainly nose manuals - did the longest I'd ever done before on my 4th attempt after about 10 minutes on the new geo, then set a new personal best (by no small margin!) after another hour or so. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 oooo looks lovely! love that "squished" looking geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Is that nose manual longer than the one you did on that manual pad near there for Clean 002? Either way, kudos for getting the frame done See what you mean about the Trialtech forks matching the headtube now - looks sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzyyyy Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 looks badass I want one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted March 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Is that nose manual longer than the one you did on that manual pad near there for Clean 002? Either way, kudos for getting the frame done See what you mean about the Trialtech forks matching the headtube now - looks sweet Yeah - probably an extra 30% on top of that. That one in 002 was the one I did on the fourth attempt today Didn't clip it this time either! Super in-love with the headtube-crown matching too. Favourite bit, if I'm honest. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 impressed with the nose manual flipp. i really dont have the confidence to go over the front enough for it...ill stick to speed stoppies... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm impressed dude. It looks well made, and durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMTRIALS123 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Looks great!!! I want one! :bow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 You'll probably ride it better because you made it too! A bit like cooking a massive complicated meal from a recipe, i'm always inclined to finish my plate even if i'm totally full to the brim purely because I made it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 That looks awesome, especially as a first attempt. The fact the welds and stuff are a bit ghetto just add to it in my opinion, and that headtube looks sweet with those forks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike425 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Good effort that! The drop outs snapped shut after removing your spacer because of the heat. when you weld it there is so much heat that the metal will change and want to move. This is normal, I would tack it in a jig and then weld it out, lets the metal do what it wants more and avoids stressing it so much. what grade tube did you use out of interest? And wall thickness? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike425 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Edit, re read it saw you used mild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Nice one dude it looks good, building a frame is something I would love to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Absolute Nutter! but fair play What material is the bb and steerer made from mild as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think so. It could be stainless I guess - I don't know how to tell Off to Google that now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon-trials Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think so. It could be stainless I guess - I don't know how to tell Off to Google that now... Stainless steel is not magnetic some is a little bit but that's because it's a shit grade and has a tiny little bit of carbon in it certainly 304/316l is not so magnet it ;-) Regards and respect as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) What material is the bb and steerer made from mild as well? 4130 according to the solid site Nice job on the frame by the way! Edited March 14, 2014 by err Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm so up for making a frame right now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Loving the look of 20in rear wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gale30jawa Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 can you give me more details on geo,y old man would love a challenge like this?Explain to me what your geo numbers mean so I can pass it it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 can you give me more details on geo,y old man would love a challenge like this? Explain to me what your geo numbers mean so I can pass it it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bint Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Streight? EDIT: and mesurments? Edited April 21, 2014 by Bint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Blame observed trials not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I want to see you ride this bike. Not just a clip but a whole video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I want to see you ride this bike. Not just a clip but a whole video. I'll second that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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