bikeperson45 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 So, take the thing you love doing most in the world, something like trials or a sport you're passionate about, and decide whether you would let someone die in order for you to keep doing that thing. The person in question is probably going to homeless, low quality of life and nobody will notice. No one will know you had a part in it and there will be no repercussions. If you choose to let them live you can no longer resume chosen activity .Chosen 'thing' can not be a person. Make the choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm full of these debates with my housemate. But they mainly involve 'would you blah blah, but only if your penis became a micro penis.' I wouldn't continue a passion if someone died. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24martin Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 i can relate to this, its half the reason i stopped eating meat yearssss ago! realising i was "letting" something die in order for me to keep on doing that "thing" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Would it not push you to enjoy it more? Depends if they're willing to die or if they're carelessly murdered. I dunno this question hurts my brain i can relate to this, its half the reason i stopped eating meat yearssss ago! realising i was "letting" something die in order for me to keep on doing that "thing" I'm not sure this is quite the same. i can relate to this, its half the reason i stopped eating meat yearssss ago! realising i was "letting" something die in order for me to keep on doing that "thing" I'm not sure this is quite the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Need more info on the victim; do you kill him? Ever meet him first?, suicidal tendency?, life expectancy? Brad johnson? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Brad johnson? Ahahahahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 It depends on whether the thing you love doing directly or indirectly kills someone else, otherwise the question is just fluff. And in that case, yes I would stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Need more info on the victim; do you kill him? Ever meet him first?, suicidal tendency?, life expectancy? Brad johnson? You don't do the deed, you just know that you continuing your chosen activity will cause the death of one person that has a low quality of life, not suicidal but not someone who is happy with their life. For example a homeless person or a woman living in a third world country. I'm going to glance over the last part in case he mysteriously dies and this is used in evidence. If my thing were listening to music, I'd be pretty tempted to look the other way to avoid missing out on music for the rest of my life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) i think our first world societies do things on a daily basis that lead to poor people dying in other countries. the aluminium frames produced in china/on taiwan are provoking production workers lungs to develop fatal deseases every day. all due to the fact their safety rules are low,due to the prices needing to be cheap,due to us not wanting to pay more money for stuff. the actual question should be,should we STOP letting someone die through doing what we love, invest in craftmanship instead of mass production? because we all are already doing what you mentioned in your op Edited January 13, 2014 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think it happens, certanly in the sweat shops of india and china, producing clothes ect, the fact I don't know about it directly means I can carry on as normal, if I knew that a person died in an avoidable accident, or the like, to make 'that' jumper, I wouldn't buy it, but to overlook someone's last efforts is probably disrespectful to their family (Another cconundrum) There are enough things to enjoy while your here to not warrent another person dying for your own personal entertainment in my view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If it means the 3rd world person dies a quick death then sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 There was a film about this very thing. Very good it was too, called "The Box". Only difference being it was 1 million dollars for the price of a random persons life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Dale Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If u would let someone die then u should seriously question yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If u would let someone die then u should seriously question yourself? I'd feel better they died quickly than suffered for years from starvation and thirst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) If it means the 3rd world person dies a quick death then sure.as apposed to a long drawn out painful one? Agreed. There's another ethical debate right there *hadn't seen that post^ Edited January 13, 2014 by *gentlydoesit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Dale Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'd feel better they died quickly than suffered for years from starvation and thirst. I didnt see ur post? Still i wouldn't be like that bout it. Thats a totally different debate? I think the whole point is that the person would be random and no i couldn't let some1 die for me and think if you think its ok then thats very wrong! Not trying to single anyone out or aim that at some1 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) For example a homeless person or a woman living in a third world country. Yeah if it's someone completely random I'd be seriously considering it. But in the original post it did say someone who wasn't happy, low quality of life and probably homeless. Edited January 13, 2014 by Jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 why or how?I mean there would be a guy next to me for rest of my life watching if I touch any computer ever? So this thread is basically how far would you go to save a persons life? Should we think about it if its not realistic? (except if you are a druglord) Or it is just me who cannot really get these types of questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Should you not be asking the other way round...sort of? Like, would you stop doing something to save a life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitbat Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If you think about, I bet there are people who die regularly in connection with the creation/provision/facilitation of the things we take for granted every day, let along the things we are passionate about. Perhaps a different way to ask the question (as the hoe above said) is would you give up something you are passionate about if it meant someone else would continue to live, albeit with a low quality of life, reduce your own quality of life so someone else can simply just 'exist' instead of living. It might sound heartless and I don't mean it to as that is not the way it is intended, but IMO the planet has an overpopulation problem, not due to space but due to resources .etc. The planet can only sustain so many people, that and countries can only provide for (jobs, financials .etc.) so many people, so by having more and more people alive means the quality of life for more and more people is being reduced ever so slightly because of all of this, making the gap between the 'rich' and everyone else greater and greater. I may be talking absolute nonsense and lots of people will surely have a different opinion, but that's exactly what it is, an opinion, which can be changed with another viewpoint. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 no,makes perfect sense^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah if it's someone completely random I'd be seriously considering it. But in the original post it did say someone who wasn't happy, low quality of life and probably homeless. Random person could be your mum? That hobo that you walk past every now and then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Random person could be your mum? That hobo that you walk past every now and then? I mean like considering it more seriously as in not doing that "thing" that would kill them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Should you not be asking the other way round...sort of? Like, would you stop doing something to save a life? Is the glass half full or empty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is the glass half full or empty? The glass is twice the size it needs to be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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