Jake. Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 If I were to use Spotify I'd have to make a new account I think, not sure would just be a pain due to saved playlists etc. What I'm saying is the ease of just pressing sign in with Facebook is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 This is the thing that always seemed weird to me - I think it's shit they can and will do that, but that's what privacy settings are for I suppose. If only your friends can see your messages, I don't get how your employers could find out about it? Unless your friends with people in your HR department, but if you are it's probably as well to bear that in mind This happens in our company, they even have a social media policy but it all stems back to the day a guy got trapped in the bog and delayed a train and someone posted the full delay report on Twitter when it's supposed to be confidential. I made sure not to make friends with anyone whatsoever from work, haven't listed who I work for on Facebook and have my privacy settings to only allow friends to see my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I think what happened was someone he was friends with dropped him in and I think he's even deleted the post but they still managed to get all his history from facebook. I guess when you're a big company and you ask facebook for info they'll just hand it over... Screen shots of the comments before the user had time to delete them. We've sacked people at work but I imagine it's an HR/employment law minefield to actually go through with it. To my knowledge they're not allowed to hand over information as I guess this would have been a civil case, not a criminal case - not to mention they would require warrants, reasonable cause and a rather large cost involved. After all, you could say that someone else was on your account without your knowledge, it's up to your employer to prove your guilt. In the past I've been 'fraped' with comments so vile that I could have lost my job over it. I didn't, but where do you draw the line of work and social? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I don't see how people can't just manage their own time themselves. It's not nicotine, just go on less. I must admit I f**king love a good quality phone call like last night with an old uni mate. It's so much more personal. We did however organise the phone call on Facebook chat... Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJsy Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I don't see how people can't just manage their own time themselves. It's like opening a pack of M&Ms and telling yourself you'll stop halfway... I know I'm capable of it but 99% of the time I'll just eat the whole lot. Same principle. Can't wait for some wise ass to criticise this metaphor or whatever it is as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingpowers Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 If you just use the messaging system on Facebook, how is that any different to using an e-mail client? I had a filming project recently where I needed to get in touch with a few different people. I didn't have their e-mail addresses so I just tracked them down on Facebook and send them a private message that way. I didn't have to "constantly check 1000 com apps" to do that because I had the tool to do that, and so that's all I did. If I use a multi-tool to tighten up a bolt on my bike, I don't have to use the other bits the tool has just because they're available to me. It just seems weird that the "I just e-mail people I want to stay in touch with" argument exists, as though e-mailing is an arbitrary peak of online communication. You are right, the app overload has nothing to do with Facebook in particular. Facebook is in the same category as many other modern com apps like WhatsApp or Snapchat in that their business model is based on algorithmic behaviour prediction. With email, one can have an own server, which is good practice in the industry I work in, just to reduce the amount of analysis white-collar criminals can do. Therefore, I use email in private as well, so I don't have to check any other accounts. This is why I incorrectly mixed in the 1000 com apps argument. Nevertheless, there is the time-consuming trend of checking a 1000 apps amongst many young today, and a waste of time on digital com is what the thread starter complained about, although in a more specific context. XKCD said about that problem: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 The thing I don't like about Facebook is that it's all people talking about what they've done. Seems it's hardly worth doing something unless you can post about it. For example someone I know going on about how much help he's providing in the Philappines, like he can't just go there and do it. Which makes the existence of this thread interesting. I mean if I left Facebook I'd just do it, and part of leaving would be making sure I don't feel the need to broadcast everything I do anymore, and so I sure as hell wouldn't feel the need to tell people how good it was to leave... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJsy Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Which makes the existence of this thread interesting. I mean if I left Facebook I'd just do it, and part of leaving would be making sure I don't feel the need to broadcast everything I do anymore, and so I sure as hell wouldn't feel the need to tell people how good it was to leave... I get what you mean but I think it's a pretty natural human thing to brag about stuff, some do it more than others and facebook provides a great platform for people to broadcast it to a large audience. I live with a couple of friends and quite often we won't see each other for a few days at a time. The next time I see whoever I've not seen for a few days we'll normally talk about what each of us got up to. I'd bring up a movie I watched that I think they might enjoy, the new trick I learnt and other random things I did such as getting rid of my facebook account which these days is a pretty big deal seeing as the norm is to have one... Of course you get the people take the piss with it and clog up your news feed with stories of amazing adventures they got up to which quite often are a load of exaggerated bollocks and a lame attempt to seem cooler amongst friends. In my case here, I thought it'd be a good place to tell people about it as I knew it'd probably lead to some debate and indeed it has, you've only got to read some of peoples' previous arguments for proof. Plus it might even lead to someone doing the same thing which would only be a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 It's like opening a pack of M&Ms and telling yourself you'll stop halfway... I know I'm capable of it but 99% of the time I'll just eat the whole lot. Same principle. Can't wait for some wise ass to criticise this metaphor or whatever it is as well... That was a simile. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJsy Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 That was a simile. God this brings back awful memories of GCSE English lessons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 And to add to my point above, I think tf is dying as a result of Facebook becoming popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) I think if God wanted us to interact with each other from a distance he'd have made us telepathic... Can't wait for some wise ass to criticise this metaphor or whatever it is as well... Ha, what you are saying there is bullshit though. What, are you also going to stop using a telephone, texting, e-mailing? While you're at it you also may as well throw out your TV and radio too... Edited December 19, 2013 by J.KYDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Makes me laugh too, the amount of people who delete their accounts to prove some kind of point (and a announce that they are doing so before hand) then they're back within a week... right.funny how much exactly such behaviour is comparable to that of drug addicts lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJsy Posted December 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Ha, what you are saying there is bullshit though. What, are you also going to stop using a telephone, texting, e-mailing? While you're at it you also may as well throw out your TV and radio too... I don't have a tv or a radio so that's easy... The point you've been missing the entire time is that people communicated over distances for years and years but it's always been a pain in the ass and no good alternative to meeting in person. With facebook connecting so much of the population not only can you contact whoever whenever but depending on how much they choose to share you can pretty much see what they've been up to in the past weeks, months or years. The point I'm trying to make is that 10 years ago, you could phone your mate and see what they got up to but you'd still go and see them in person to see the new car they bought or whatever - now you just look at the facebook/instagram picture they posted of it and you're sorted... I think it's getting to easy to contact people and share things with them now. Edited December 19, 2013 by PatJsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 What's stopping you from going round to look at his new car now? As has been said a few times, it's a tool that you can either choose to use or choose not to. Allen keys exist, but if you want to whittle yourself something else from the nearest dog turd each time you want to adjust your bars you have the choice to do so, it's just that one option makes life considerably easier that the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 The major flaw in suggesting what God would have done differently, is that God is a made up character in a book. A book that is no more real than Charlie and the chocolate factory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 As for the other point, it's true you can't bump into people from far away but it makes it that little bit more special when you visit them I guess? So I should have not spoken to my brother for the past 3 years to make me possibly going over to visit him at some point in the future 'more special'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Nevertheless, there is the time-consuming trend of checking a 1000 apps amongst many young today... I'm pretty sure people procrastinating isn't necessarily a trend of today exclusively. There are far bigger problems that FB and similar things cause than just 'wasting time' too. If you need a secure e-mail account for work then fair enough, but that isn't the case for the majority of people. This is unrelated to this topic, and this isn't meant as a dig in any way, but is English your first language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJsy Posted December 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 What's stopping you from going round to look at his new car now? As has been said a few times, it's a tool that you can either choose to use or choose not to. Allen keys exist, but if you want to whittle yourself something else from the nearest dog turd each time you want to adjust your bars you have the choice to do so, it's just that one option makes life considerably easier that the other. Very true, can't really think of a good response haha The major flaw in suggesting what God would have done differently, is that God is a made up character in a book. A book that is no more real than Charlie and the chocolate factory. I think there are two types of idiots in the world. Those who preach about God and those who preach about there being no God. Somewhere in the middle are people like myself who don't give a f*ck either way, I just thought it'd be a nice metaphor that people can easily understand. So I should have not spoken to my brother for the past 3 years to make me possibly going over to visit him at some point in the future 'more special'? You should have stopped being a slacker and visited sooner Nah I really do agree with your point but personally I thought the benefits of no longer wasting time on it (once again this is purely talking about myself, not everyone that uses it) outweighed the drawbacks of no longer being able to contact people easily. This is unrelated to this topic, and this isn't meant as a dig in any way, but is English your first language? Was this aimed at me or the other guy? It's my second although I've lived in the UK for a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'd like to go over there, but £1k+ ticket prices for the time of year I'd usually want to go = not ideal, plus I'd like to go over there for a longer period of time so having had a full time job that wasn't really do-able. And nah, that was aimed at StirlingPowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks for your feedback, however I'd like to point out that I'm not an idiot. Likewise, I don't really care if there is or isn't a God, however if you make the point of him existing, I will call you out on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks for your feedback, however I'd like to point out that I'm not an idiot. Likewise, I don't really care if there is or isn't a God, however if you make the point of him existing, I will call you out on it. Good Lord! For the love of God can we stop the debate? Let's all kiss and make up, after all, WWJD?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 You said God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 My newsfeed is full of bikes, muscles, hot fit girls and music, that's all I need it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 But you don't even have me as a friend. Decide which one I am I'll give you a clue, I don't have wheels, I don't sing, I don't have the biggest arms in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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