Is something like that possible in UK?

[TriаlsRider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyT2KbmFfI0

*This situation is based on nothing. Shooter just didn't like how other one looked at him.

Don't want to insult someone, so if this is too much - just delete thread please and do not ban me, I like to stay here and at least talk about bikes :wink2:

Just want to know more about English mentality and UK in common.

Edited November 22, 2013 by TriаlsRider

[*gentlydoesit]

I've had the old "what u lukin at" but never with a gun pointed at me..

Luckily gun crime is fairly small in the uk, knife crime is rife though.

[dngr2self]

Things like that happen in certain areas. Gun crime is very low where I live fortunately, the last shooting was a few years ago if I remember rightly. I feel lucky that I live in a fairly big city that has such low rates of gun and knife crime. If you look at bigger cities like London, Manchester or Liverpool for example the situation is a lot worse in comparison. Hull has had a bit of attention the last few days after being awarded the city of culture 2017 and I've been seeing things on the net like "why you should move to Hull". I just hope that if we do get an influx of people moving here they don't bring these sort of problems with them. It may seem like I'm being paranoid but I feel that if gang and gun culture comes to Hull it will take off quickly.

As a side note, I think because Britain is an island that helps keep gun crime down as its harder to bring them in.

[dann2707]

and I've been seeing things on the net like "why you should move to Hull"

Jeeeeesus really?

I had to go there before I caught the ferry to Amsterdam, it felt awful just being there and walking around. Feels a bit, neglected? Unless it's changed since July

[Muel]

There have been 3 shootings near me in the last 4 years or so, 2 of them within 2 mins walk of ogre's flat haha.

All drug dealers shooting other drug dealers though, so seeing as I am not a drug dealer I'm not worried.

[Mark W]

All drug dealers shooting other drug dealers though, so seeing as I am not a drug dealer I'm not worried.

Preeeetty much. For my second year I lived roughly on a dividing line between two gangs, and a few people got shot along the route I had to take to get to uni. It was always gang-on-gang though, and I never really felt in much danger because I was always just some random guy on a bike rather than a target. The statistics sound bad but for the most part, as a general member of the public, it's fine.

A friend and I did get a gun pulled on us randomly one time, but that was kind of random and not a typical scenario.

[dngr2self]

Preeeetty much. For my second year I lived roughly on a dividing line between two gangs, and a few people got shot along the route I had to take to get to uni. It was always gang-on-gang though, and I never really felt in much danger because I was always just some random guy on a bike rather than a target. The statistics sound bad but for the most part, as a general member of the public, it's fine.

A friend and I did get a gun pulled on us randomly one time, but that was kind of random and not a typical scenario.

Statistics are quite misleading aren't they? On paper Hull looks bad but it's actually quite nice. It may not have much to offer but it's safe so I don't mind. Getting a gun pulled on you must have been quite scary.

[Mark W]

It was just sort of weird and totally out of the blue so it wasn't really scary at the time so much as just making you go 'wut'. Guy didn't say anything before, during or after. Just walked up then walked away.

[dngr2self]

Jeeeeesus really?

I had to go there before I caught the ferry to Amsterdam, it felt awful just being there and walking around. Feels a bit, neglected? Unless it's changed since July

Nothings changed I think they just thought we needed the money. The media attention and funding should kick start a lot regeneration and create jobs so it's really good for the city. It might seem neglected but I think it gives the place character. I wouldn't live anywhere else.

[N.Wood]

Hull was actually not as bad as I expected it to be. I stayed in Patrington for a week. Nice Tesco Extra.

[Max Quinn]

That's rare, like Mark says if you're not doing anything wrong you're generally safe. However, it only takes one jumped up muppet with a few screws loose and more money/contacts then sense and you have a gun in your gut. Knife crime's a much bigger problem though and is unfortunately way too common in some of the places/scenes I frequent.

I've seen a couple in London, only ever had one pointed at me when I was robbed in Brazil though, I think that moment was enough to genuinely change me as a person.

[dngr2self]

That's rare, like Mark says if you're not doing anything wrong you're generally safe. However, it only takes one jumped up muppet with a few screws loose and more money/contacts then sense and you have a gun in your gut. Knife crime's a much bigger problem though and is unfortunately way too common in some of the places/scenes I frequent.

I've seen a couple in London, only ever had one pointed at me when I was robbed in Brazil though, I think that moment was enough to genuinely change me as a person.

Hope you don't mind me asking but how did it change you?

[Ash-Kennard]

someone was killed on my road with a samurai sword last year. that was interesting

[eskimo]

someone was killed on my road with a samurai sword last year. that was interesting

This is partially a stupid question, but how do you actually kill someone with a sword?

Like a leg or arm chop? Loss of blood cause it hit an archery? Severe nerve damage, or straight off head chop?

Severely odd. Guess it was spur of the moment thing.

[Ash-Kennard]

i believe the police referred to it as a stabbing.

Severely odd. Guess it was spur of the moment thing.

spur of the moment samurai sword action? who just has a sword on them lol

[*gentlydoesit]

a bored ninja?

[dngr2self]

Leonardo.

[*gentlydoesit]

Leonardo decpitatio

[FamilyBiker]

me.

[Willeyeam]

Reading through this thread I'm shocked that two people have had guns pulled on them in England. I'm luckily enough not to know anyone who has come across an illegal gun in the UK.

I lived in America for 6 months and have travelled around the country since and I'm so glad that I live in a country where guns are so hard to get hold of. In Arizona I drove out into the desert with a friend and 7 guns and let a few hundred rounds fly. It was great fun but I'll happily sacrifice that to not live in a place where people can walk the streets with a gun without even needing a permit. Even where I lived in Minnesota I got into numerous arguments with people who genuinely thought that more guns will solve the problem of gun violence, while gun control will make things worse. That America has the highest murder rate out of the 20 countries with the highest GDP and by far the most liberal gun laws didn't mean anything to them.

Anyway I'm getting a bit off topic but my point was that yes I'm sure there are lots of people who are unstable and capable of things like this if they had access to a gun and even more if they carried it regularly. Thankfully in the UK few do.

[Max Quinn]

Hope you don't mind me asking but how did it change you?

Dunno to be honest, I just look at it as a moment that had a big effect on me in terms of not taking things for granted (quite as much at least). It sounds cliche but it kind of felt like the last moment of childhood, wandering round this dangerous place thinking your invincible with not a care in the world when something like that happens and you suddenly think 'shit, this is real'.