Blake Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hi guys It's one of those rainy days where I'm sat indoors wearing pyjama bottoms and beefing one out on trials forum to make people think i'm cool. I've gotten to that point in life where a lot of friends are having experimentations with substances. I've not touched drugs apart from casual drinking, where as a lot of my "friends" smoke weed and have also branched euphoric drugs like MDMA or hallucinogenic drugs. I was wonder what Trials forum would have to offer on my interesting topic, this forum has helped with my life development by bringing in outer views and opinions on topics that I can't really bring up with big groups of teenagers. So, let's throw some questions about. Have you taken any drugs? What where they and how did you like the effects? What do you think on drugs becoming more popular in younger generations, such as they're accessibility, casual reaction and even subconscious encouragement? Get chatting. Cheers, George xx Also, I'd like to say that I will be judging people or building up cons against them, this is purely for the matter of debate and learning. I assume having this discussion is legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Try everything once Except ketamine, just don't try that, it's horrendous. And don't do anything excessively because you'll ruin it for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Having taken drugs isn't an arresable offence, posession is so talk of past experiences is perfectly legal.. I was a raving stoner for years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Try everything once Except ketamine, just don't try that, it's horrendous. And don't do anything excessively because you'll ruin it for yourself! That's a good outlook on life in general. I respect that, do you still have dreads by the way? Having taken drugs isn't an arresable offence, posession is so talk of past experiences is perfectly legal.. I was a raving stoner for years! ah, cool to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) drugs are bad ,mmmkay!? joking aside,as everyone in my age i got experiences with several substances(not included the isocyanates from making pads haha),and i think,one should try but not exaggerate everything he/her can. its the compromise of living once:you only live once so why miss something,and you only live once so why ruin it early and die young. fun fact:never touched anything psychoactive except beer since i ride bikes(dj,trials,street) Edited October 11, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I used to smoke weed and drink till the morning every Friday and Saturday when i was 17-20 i gave it all up as soon as i had my job at the bike shop. and between jobs i tryed cat i would have tobsay it was much better than weed. And i would try it again, but wouldn't recommend going out on it, keep it to a good house party. Class a drugs will make you a different person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I used to smoke weed and drink till the morning every Friday and Saturday when i was 17-20 i gave it all up as soon as i had my job at the bike shop. and between jobs i tryed cat i would have tobsay it was much better than weed. And i would try it again, but wouldn't recommend going out on it, keep it to a good house party. Class a drugs will make you a different person. You say that but studies on cocaine are saying usage doesn't have any long term social or psychological problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) . Edited October 12, 2013 by JMCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I've probably experimented, at least once, with most recreational drugs. I've had both some of the best and worst experiences of my life through them. The time I took LSD in the local botanical gardens as a teenager opened me up more than before to the mystery of existence and set me on a path that works to make that mystery more central to my life. It was an extremely religious experience but not in the sense that most of us see religion. That drug has also offered me the most laughter I've had in a period of time and some highly amusing memories I get to share with certain friends. It's also caused me some of the most horrific hallucinations that include looking out of my windows to see thousands of police men storming toward and into my house. I even found myself shouting at some people in my house without remembering why I was doing it or how I'd arrived at this part of the house. That was quite frightening feeling so out of control. I should add on the occasion it went wrong I combined it with extremely potent cannabis smoked out of a bong and was surrounded by total dicks - this was a recipe for disaster. Cannabis also offers me a spiritual outlook on the world although not at the same intensity as psychedelics such as LSD. I sometimes use it to think about things with more optimism when I'm feeling cynical. It can remind me what actually interests me in life and is meaningful. At one point in my life it made my depression worse and created anxiety. I know two people who developed cannabis psychosis and are effectively brain damaged. One of them who used to be the alpha male, so to speak, but now is like a timid teenager and has no hope for much in the way of recovery. I've had some amazing social experiences on MDMA which are usually quite embarrassing in hindsight because people talk sentimental nonsense on it. I tried it again this summer after a long break from it and found it quite boring. The first time I took it as a teenager I was amazed it was possible to feel that way but the experience tends to lessen over time. It also made my depression worse when I was suffering from that. I've also had a problem with opiate addiction which is something I'm still dealing with although it's definitely getting better. This came about from an operation and being given way more codeine than I should have been and which was the stepping stone toward stronger opiates. These have probably been the most problematic drugs for me because they reduce who I am - my ability to think, remember, my co-ordination, confidence, ability to deal with stress and they also heighten the problem I have with mood swings. I've had to learn how to deal with stress anew without simply taking a pill that makes you at ease. Basically, what I'm trying to illustrate here, is that drugs are complex and they have the potential for good and bad. It depends on how you use them. There is the possibility of having mostly good experiences although there is always the risk that you might be disposed to respond very badly. But then the same is true of using medicine. There is a very real possibility of growth from using psychedelics and scientific experiment confirms this but there is also the chance of using drugs to avoid the growth that comes from dealing with difficulties in life. Alcohol can also support our avoidance when we use it to forget about how awful our week has been. These days though my drug use is minimal compared to what it used to be and I prefer to find growth through philosophic and meditative interests which don't offer such quick access to developed insights into the world but when they come about they at least tend to be more stable. I do think that if you have a philosophic or spiritual disposition that certain drugs are recommendable at least once. Drugs have had a pretty consistent role in human history as a method of transformation and reconnection with the world. Their prohibition is a *very* modern phenomena and, I think, one based out of ignorance. Edited October 11, 2013 by Ben Rowlands 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I think you know my view George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Extremely interesting and well written post there Ben, thank you for taking the time to do that I think you know my view George I know you're a fat pothead haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have only smoked a bit of grass. I have however seen a lot of people around me let their lives unwind with drugs. Some prison sentences, two (on last count) people sectioned, more broken relationships and families then I care to mention. Once down that path the boundaries start blurring and given the wrong combination of people, environment, timing and emotional state I've heard some horrific stories. My advice would be, try if you must but remain in control of how often you do. My opinion is as soon as you're looking forward to the next time you know you will be taking something, you have a problem. I have two entirely separate circles of friends, one which is stable and successful and the other (where casual recreational drugs were part of their adolescence) is the side with the issues.I probably come across as a utter condescending fanny but my two pence worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 I could write so much here but most of my brain cells have eroded. Joke.. If I wasn't using a phone I'd write an essay. i would lile to say though, legal highs like salvia can be hardcore, don't think just because its legal it won't harm you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) If you want real life stories and points of view then go on erowid.org and fill yer boots Otherwise you're going to end up with a thread full of stoners droning on about what a wonderful drug weed is Edited October 12, 2013 by Jolfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) . Edited October 12, 2013 by Max Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 ^^confession retracted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinfor Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Im boring I dont drink, smoke or do any drugs. People always ask why I dont, I always say why would I. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 I've dabbled with Weed a bit and didn't like it very much. I've never considered the benefit of having a nice time to be worthy of the risk of them destroying your life. I know that's all down to the user and how much self control you have, but I don't think I have enough. Seen too many mates gone from intelligent, decent people into gormless retards through smoking lots of weed. Mind you I also know people who were heavy users for a long time and seem fine.I'd say try stuff if you want to, but be wary of how wrong it can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Ive smoked weed pretty much every day for 2years and I'm still fine, doing well in a full time job (albeit retail) and I've been in a nice chilled relationship for almost a year and a half, some people get lazy and become bums but it's all down to the user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe O'Connor Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 To add to the list of lovable (or hateable) traits I have, I've avoided all forms of drugs, booze or smokes for the last four years. I avoid saying the term because of how it can make you sound douchey. But yeah... straight edge... I don't see the point. I love life as it is and it doesn't need boosting with any substances. For me anyway, I can understand the appeal it has for others though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Not really up for public discussion, but you're welcome to PM me if you'd like some input from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Not really up for public discussion, but you're welcome to PM me if you'd like some input from me. Now now that defeats the point of the thread. All are welcome here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 To add to the list of lovable (or hateable) traits I have, I've avoided all forms of drugs, booze or smokes for the last four years. I avoid saying the term because of how it can make you sound douchey. But yeah... straight edge... I don't see the point. I love life as it is and it doesn't need boosting with any substances. For me anyway, I can understand the appeal it has for others thoughYou're only "straight edge" if you choose to be. If you just don't drink or take drugs or smoke, then you just don't drink or take drugs or smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe O'Connor Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 You're only "straight edge" if you choose to be. If you just don't drink or take drugs or smoke, then you just don't drink or take drugs or smoke. Well I do choose to be, I am a person who promotes it when I discus it with people. But on public forums its easy to come across as a bell end by being the guy that brings it up. To people who know what it is, I am open about it. Otherwise I don't call it that so I don't look like a dick. If that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Was dead against drugs through sixth form and everyone knew it in my friends group. Had a joint on my own in Amsterdam with my girlfriend which was weird, she was just looking after a guy who wanted to eat pancakes all the time. And had a space cake then went on a pedalo which was the single most funniest boat trip I have ever been on. Other than that I'm not too fussed. Even with drinking last night at a house party I had 3/4 of a can of fosters and still had a really fun time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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