FamilyBiker Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 would be a 995-1005mm wheelbase bike,sounds nice to me.but why that reach on that wb? just out of interest,even compy bikes have lower values in most cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Comp bikes run long stems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) yeah,but frame-wise most are between 630-650mm in reach. was just wondering why a streety 1000mm wb bike with +25 bb would have a geo value like this. most street frames have a reach around 640,except for the fourplay and the zoot thats why i´m asking the frame isitafox mentioned would either be loooong in terms of the front triangle/effective toptube length or have a say 150 headtube,out of my head Edited October 30, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 665mm Onza Zoot665mm 2013 Fourplay655mm Ozonys Curve V4 24"650mm Echo Trial645mm Ozonys KOD635mm Neon BowAgain, comp bikes tend to run (considerably) longer stems. Unless you hold on to the top of your steerer, the reach is useful but not the be all and end all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 2013 (and I think the older 2011) Fourplays have 665 reach with a 73° head angle, would maybe have to reign it in to 660 with the steeper angle up front but I can safely say I could never get on with something as short as 650 hence me not wanting a Skye. Luke knows how high I like my front ends and with a reach of 650 I'd have to run a mod stem to squeeze behind the bars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) okay,kind of underestimated that then,my frame has 655 and feels pretty long even with a short high cockpit. with me being 182cm tall,which i´d consider as average. Edited October 30, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 longer reach means you can use a shorter stem which is better for spins and tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I suppose I personally can't make a decision until the price and geo of an Arcade is released, highly intriguing as (though it's probably just my eyes) yours looks like it has quite a high bottom bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) thinking about all this leads me to the comclusion my frame feels long because a high bb with an average reach is going to be longer horizontally,seen from a sideview. i´ve got a bad flu atm,brains getting tired i assume. thanks guys.and sorry for ot Edited October 30, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Lol, my comp frame is +70 and 660 reach with 73° head angle. Almost wish I gone to 74° so I could have run a shorter stem on that as 150mm is too long in my eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 yeah, I don't really understand why comp bikes don't have longer reaches and shorter stems, doesn't make sense in my head to use such long stems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) i´d say the leverage for front wheel moves would be bad. with short stems you´d have to get to a steeper angle the bike has underneath you to balance on the front wheel,no? i mean,the center of gravity defines the balance point.c.o.g. more to the rear > balance point more to the front to achieve the same? Edited October 30, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 well yeah, you'd have to steepen the head angle too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasp1405 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 oh, by the way for those interrested the new skye team geo is now online.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasp1405 Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 yes we know its a very lovely ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasp1405 Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 oh big anouncment! From what my dealer told me, Dave from inspired told him it was going to be release next week!! I really hope its true!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Going off Ali's comments on one of the status updates I just wondered (and this is pretty much aimed at Mr Clarkson) what does Danny Mac think of the Arcade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I honestly have no idea when they are getting released but I just asked Danny for an official quote of his opinion on the Arcade......"They're shite, buy a Skye". He is obviously mentally deranged so I wouldn't take much notice really. For cereal I gather he does like it quite a lot but obviously he also likes the Skye quite a lot too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Love the looks of an arcade but like the geo of a Skye.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 the Skye geo is vastly improved with the shorter back end, but 10mm bb rise and 73 head angle? No thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasp1405 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 if shorter end seem to be always better, why didnt they do the first generation skye like that instead? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 if shorter end seem to be always better, why didnt they do the first generation skye like that instead? I often wonder what the direction of the Inspired Bicycles would be today if Matt Staples was still riding.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasp1405 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 what could he have change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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