James281098 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks guys for some actual advice finally haha ! Do you know how much one costs including shipping costs? Also another question sorry how can I look at all the marino frames not just look at how to make custom ones because I can't see it anywhere on the website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 The frame finished all in with express (7-10 days) postage will translate to roughly £250, with slow postage it'll be a bit less. Marino pretty much does just custom frames, there's not a range or anything, the Archive's sort of a one off that he's made a few of, I think that's the only one he sells off the shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sorry for going on at you guys bout this How do marinos compare in terms of strength to inspirers? Will this bike feel "tight' or "cramped' if you get me? :/ only because I'm on a mk1 fourplay same as the element I think minus the vee mounts and I wanted something that feels slightly more 'roomy' ? Will it feel majorly different to my mk1 fourplay? I think this is my last question haha , finally how much does it weigh? Sorry again for there being so many questions it's just I'm considering buying one but want to be sure before I spend that much money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 This won't feel more roomy, definitely more crampedEDIT: After having a second look at the geometry that might be wrong but I don't think it'll stretch you out anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Inspireds frames are really strong, but I think a Marino will outlast a Fourplay, especially your mk1. I had my old one for over 2 years and really trated it quite badly, no problems. Not many people have Skyes and Arcades are too new to know anything about but they're all really strong frames, I wouldn't be worried about breaking any. It's a short frame like a Skye and will be much less roomy than your Fourplay, yours is the oldest and longest one. My 24" Marino weighs about 4.6 lbs if I remember, which is lighter than Fourplays & Skyes, and I reckon an Arcade is a bit heavier too. About the cramped thing.....he's a custom frame builder so you can order anything you like. The head angle's 1 degree steeper than a Skye so you'll get a little bit more room and things will be better on the front wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sorry for yet another question, but what would I say in the email if I get one? Would I just keep the bb height, chain stay and head angle the same and just change the wheel base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah. any extra length you go for on the wheelbase will only be added to the top tube. everything else will stay the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah I know this will sound stupid but if I did just extend the wheelbase would I still get the gap between where the top tube and bottom tube joins the head tube because I really want that Also would everything off my inspired fit straight onto the archive ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 This won't feel more roomy, definitely more crampedEDIT: After having a second look at the geometry that might be wrong but I don't think it'll stretch you out anymore! I don't want it to stretch me out as such as long as i have more room as in the bars aren't close to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 What height are you? I'm 5 8" and my archive was perfect with a 90mm 25 degree stem and da bomb bars a d a couple of 10mm spacers. I've got a few videos of me riding it if you would like to check them out? As Leon has said, the Archive is not a production model as such. Marino has made a few limited edition frames for people to buy as an "off the shelf" instead of a completely custom build. If they all sell and people are happy then he might make another batch. I probably shouldn't be saying but I know there's a tapered head tube version with matching forks kicking about. That's 1"8th to 1.5 head tube dia. There's a mixture of Spanish and euro bb types too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 He told me he couldn't do tapered headtubes when I ordered my frame and didn't really know what I was on about when I asked him about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James281098 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm 5.11" and I'm debating between a marino frame with this geo: 360 +25 100 74 head angle Or a inspired fourplay team frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) He told me he couldn't do tapered headtubes when I ordered my frame and didn't really know what I was on about when I asked him about it Well maybe he didn't have the headtubes in at the time. I've seen pics of Archives with the tapered head tube on it with matching forks so he does have them now. He has also shortened the off the shelf horizontal dropouts to fit desired gear ratios so they look a bit neater. Ill see if I can post some pictures... Edited January 5, 2014 by Ross McArthur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Saying that I did put the original order in in November 2012 so I assume this has all happened since 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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