motiveless closing of my topic

[MadManMike]

OH MY fREAkING GOD.

I need money, that I have problems with right now. I don't have time to sell it for 700 bucks and nobody will buy it for 700 bucks fast!

This is a reason I sell it so cheap - I NEED MONEY. Not a fREAking boxes that take place in my apartments.

I'm in trials for 2+ years and here for 1,5 years.

WHATS WRONG WITH YOU, GUYS, ALL OF YOU?

Are you serious about fishing or something? Isitafox is just a fREAking jerk that even can't reply PMs.

And yes - so emotional, because I don't understand this stupidity.

I thought riders are like a big family, where each other may help for free and have some support and good relation.

So why is this s**T happening? Yes for that cheap. Or you want to buy it for $710? That cheap because I need money and because I'm not a stupid fREaking greedy jerk like you, isitawoofs.

Behaving like that won't solve anything though will it?

Stop acting like a spoilt 10 year old and accept that you broke the rules. As has already been suggested, re-post your advert with photos not taken from websites and add a price - if it gets closed again, take the hint and sell the frames on eBay or something.

You're like this in almost every thread, it's irritating.

[george_seamons]

You make your own destiny. Respect is earnt, not a given right. You were a dick when you first joined this forum, so people don't trust you. Simples.

Isitafox is highly unlikely to respond to you if you keep mocking him. Would you, if the tables were turned?! Take the hint.

Any more insults, and you I will permaban you. As I said before, make a new for sale ad, and go from there...and stop whining like a little girl.

[Pete.M]

How have you ended up with three to sell then?

Why would you have 3 brand new unused frames that you want to sell for far less than you supposedly bought them for? Seems very fishy to me.

An answer is needed for this before anyone will want to hand over money.

[FamilyBiker]

oh,dude.

i´d apologize,honestly,cleric!

the weird thing is i know the story behind this because he mentioned it in a pm in which he asked me something about marino frames.

just dont know why he just didnt tell it in his topic, a potential buyer and/or moderators wouldve been understanding way better why he´s selling and so on..

dunno

Edited September 16, 2013 by FamilyBiker

[Muel]

Wah wah wah, wah wah wah. Oh wah, wah is me. My life is wah. Wah wah frames wah. Wah wah modfags are all bastards wah wah.

[isitafox]

OH MY fREAkING GOD.

I need money, that I have problems with right now. I don't have time to sell it for 700 bucks and nobody will buy it for 700 bucks fast!

This is a reason I sell it so cheap - I NEED MONEY. Not a fREAking boxes that take place in my apartments.

I'm in trials for 2+ years and here for 1,5 years.

WHATS WRONG WITH YOU, GUYS, ALL OF YOU?

Are you serious about fishing or something? Isitafox is just a fREAking jerk that even can't reply PMs.

And yes - so emotional, because I don't understand this stupidity.

I thought riders are like a big family, where each other may help for free and have some support and good relation.

So why is this s**T happening? Yes for that cheap. Or you want to buy it for $710? That cheap because I need money and because I'm not a stupid fREaking greedy jerk like you, isitawoofs.

You sent me 2 PM's, a report and started this post all with the exact same question which was answered in the post you reported. I didn't reply as I didn't feel the need to when everybody else can see why I shut your for sale ad

Isitafox said to you before " Where do I start, no price, brand new frames with free postage"

What part of that can't you understand.

Dez can see it, why can't you?

[clerictgm]

Alright, alright. Now I made a topic by the rules and with my own photos, and it's ok right now?

My reaction was not on closure of the topic - it was because of suspicion (fishy and stuff) that I don't deserve I think and also I think that it is offensive and unacceptable.

[JT!]

No one has really said anything about you being 'fishy'. Aside from your original post not having a asking price which is required by the forum rules, you've yet to explain how you've come to have 3 of these frames brand new.

It's happened a lot in the past, where someone who isn't just a guy trying to sell his old frame, but someone who's maybe known someone who's owned a shop and been given a few frames to sell and they get to keep money for each one sold. That's against the rules because businesses pay money to advertise on this site. If loopholes like that are taken advantage of less and less people are going to want to advertise on the site because people are getting around it for free. This could lead to TF not been able to pay the bills which would be very very bad, hence why you see no trials shops advertising on the site.

It has happened where someone is selling a brand new frame, but in these circumstances they've bought it and changed their mind, or they bought it and something happened and they needed the money. No one would buy 3 of the exact same frame, so unless the mods get a good answer on how you got them and why you're selling them then it's going to be considered 'selling for profit' as has been explained, and your new topic might be closed again.

[quick_spider]

The problem is you look like a trader and your attitude sucks.

[HippY]

I saw your new topic, and it is nice, with nice postage costs and "bundles"

May I ask that you would like to make a good reputation with it, saying "sorry" in that way?

I mean no offense for you, the reason why I ask it because it seems like it

[PaRtZ]

Seriously Ive been reading all the posts in this topic, and I still want to know why you have 3 brand new frames that you're selling.

Please, just answer that. I really want to know.

EDIT: Don't care if they're cheap or expensive before you post that one again.

Edited September 22, 2013 by PaRtZ

[Paperclip]

This topic isn't really a helping hand for selling the frames however I don't see why people shouldn't if interested just buy one of the frames. He's bought himself 4 frames offered to him at trade price (Perhaps old stock). He can offer proof of owning the frames and is happy to deal through paypal so you have buyer protection. The frame postage takes 5-14 days and paypal your protected for 1 month anyway for those who don't trust him.

After posting the frames even buying them at trade he isn't making any money so he is clearly having a few money problems and probably the one main reason he is pretty frustrated?

I'm not defending how this topic and other topics have lead, I'm just trying to help out the people who have asked questions and not really being taken notice of.

[PaRtZ]

He's bought himself 4 frames offered to him at trade price (Perhaps old stock).

I couldn't get that from any of the posts, probably overlooked them. So thanks for that

[JT!]

This topic isn't really a helping hand for selling the frames however I don't see why people shouldn't if interested just buy one of the frames. He's bought himself 4 frames offered to him at trade price (Perhaps old stock). He can offer proof of owning the frames and is happy to deal through paypal so you have buyer protection. The frame postage takes 5-14 days and paypal your protected for 1 month anyway for those who don't trust him.

After posting the frames even buying them at trade he isn't making any money so he is clearly having a few money problems and probably the one main reason he is pretty frustrated?

I'm not defending how this topic and other topics have lead, I'm just trying to help out the people who have asked questions and not really being taken notice of.

That's all well and good, and if that is the case it's against forum rules.

[Krisboats]

Just to add, I told you why the topic had been closed before you made this thread. It was mentioned in the closed thread as to why it was closed and now you're asking again. I'd ask anybody who would be thinking of dealing with you to errr on the side of caution. Don't use paypal gift and make sure the delivery is tracked. Shady selling methods and a chilidish temper don't really seem the attributes of someone i'd be sending money to abroad.

[Dave Borat]

Childish, RLY? Well, I thought I was doing a good deal - to give you, guys, the chance to try this frames for cheaper, because I was in not so good financial situation and also because I'm not a greed piece of f**k and cheapskate like some of you on here. If you don't want - ok, buy it for official price, and it doesn't matters now, because I already sold all in Russia.

About business and stuff, and also I want to say HELLO to some great IDIOT, to a guy who "doing a degree in business and global economics" and mentioned a "loss leader" marketing strategy that is old as diplodocus. I have(not doing like you, lol) a degree in economics in one of the best universities of Russia by the way. And I want to say that you are some stupid child, that found a "good" chance to show off.

I'm not an owner of that company, you, idiot, I have no relation to this company instead of having(in the past now) some frames for sale.

About Inspired, I rode it for 1 year and mentioned cracks in dropouts on my element, and this is very unpleasantly, because I'm not a big rider. You all have so crazy and insane imagination building your conspiracy theories. f**k it, doesn't matter anymore.

Krisboats, and others, About your dirty and silly words about shady selling methods - f**k YOU, stupid bitch.

You think I was for almost 2 years on TF to steal someones 500 bucks? f**k you twice! How dare you to say this shit about me?

I don't wanted to swear with anyone and to spoil relations with anyone. But I can't stand this, when someone says so dirty things about me, all the more so it's not truth. Well, sorry about being so angry and have a nice day. Please try to understand me.

Kind regards,

Clerictgm

Edited September 30, 2013 by Dave Borat

[JD™]

Chill. Out.

Try making your point without insulting anyone. If you feel insulted then that's a shame, but two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't know why I'm still trying to help steer you in a direction which might make you more accepted. How's about taking some advice?

[manuel]

f**k f**k it, f**k YOU, stupid bitch f**k you twice! How dare you to say this shit about me?...

I don't wanted to swear with anyone and to spoil relations with anyone.

Please try to understand me.

Lol

[MadManMike]

Seriously dude, this place would be better without you. You clearly don't like people here so why post this crap?

Stop whining like a little kid and find another forum to troll.

[RobinJI]

I don't normally get involved in shit like this, but please SHUT UP!

You repeatedly avoided the question of how you came into possession of the frames, while ranting about prices. No one does, or has ever, questioned the prices, in fact they've commented that they seem good. What they have done is repeatedly ask you where the frames came from (not necessarily directly, but it's be pointed out that this is the main issue on many occasions.) and you've REPEATEDLY dodged or ignored the question, and now you're calling us the stupid ones? Surely you can't be so blind as to not be able to see the problem here?

Also, people not knowing whether you're making a profit on these frames doesn't make them stupid, or bad at maths. Maths is not a source of data, it's a method of processing data, to extract meaning from it. Maths can't tell us how much the guy welding the frame is being paid, how far the frames have been transported from the factory, the method of transportation, the cost of the materials used, the cost to pay the guy who chose these materials, that welder and that method of transport etc.. It can tell us what the resultant total of that data is if we're provided with it, but it can't give us the source, can it.

Now please either grow up, stop throwing your toys out of the pram and start acting like a decent member of the community, or piss off and leave us alone, because this pointless argument isn't going to get you anywhere.

(PS, how are these topics even still open?)

[Krisboats]

chilidish temper

Childish, RLY?

Krisboats, and others, About your dirty and silly words about shady selling methods - f**k YOU, stupid bitch.

You think I was for almost 2 years on TF to steal someones 500 bucks? f**k you twice! How dare you to say this shit about me?

Bllahhhh, blaaahhhh, blllaaahhh, whiiinnne, crryyyyy

Kind regards,

Clerictgm

Great job at proving otherwise.

In light of how well you put across your reply i'd like to revise my previous comment about people being cautious when trading with this guy. I ACTIVELY DISCOURAGE ANYBODY FROM TRADING WITH THIS GUY!