HippY Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Hey guys I have a question that bothers me Luckily I can buy a new bike in Christmas/November I rode a Koxx Hydroxx 20 long, but for my 180 cm it was to small. I tried a 26 inch one once for 10 minutes and it felt monumental and comfortable ( that was a Koxx Hydroxx as well) But here comes the question I am a beginner and I am not a talented rider, no balance whatsoever How should I realise which one is my riding style, streety or trial? I would like to do lines, im not a real "I can jump 83 " Highrise" guy, I am not a competition guy I was thinking about: Onza Zoot: Trialsy and streety Echo 24: There was a guy http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/183885-tamas-misik-hungary-24-zhi/ and I can imagine myself going that direction ( if I am capable to do that or not, thats a different thing) Echo TR 26: I can get a new one cheap, I can try a 26 but not a 24 So, what should I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's hard when you don't have much experience of a wide range of bikes as you can't be sure what's gonna feel nice to ride.I think the Hydroxx stocks were about +40 were they not(?) so going off that I'd say an Echo 24 is gonna feel super high, I've got similar geometry and it just doesn't feel good on 2 wheels. If you want to go 24 then I'd say give the Zoot a try or if not then the 26" Echo, they still have a pretty high BB but are a lot more manageable on 2 wheels than the 24's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I am not sure where to go I heard a saying that it is more about the rider than the bike ( and I saw some example, like Chriss Akrigg on a fixie) but generally I would go with zoot because of that street/trails geo, although because of my height a 26 maybe would suit me better, and as I saw on the video, you can ride with a comp bike on the street pretty nice It will be my monthly salary, so I must choose wisely :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 unless you crave streety riding, teg a decent tgs machine and learn to ride trials solidly, then transfer to a streetier machine if you feel the need, it's harder to learn real trials on a 'streety' bike and it's not as easy as a bmx to ride street on. not that you can't, but i prefer to have the right bike for the task.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 ...that said, having a bike you can pretty much do anything on wherever you want to has it's benefits. On something like that Zoot you can ride a pump track, a skatepark, BMXy-streety stuff or more traditional trialsy stuff if you prefer. It won't necessarily push the limits in each of those areas, but having the option of riding a huge range of stuff just makes riding itself more enjoyable, especially if you're not sure which specific type of riding you'd prefer. With a slightly longer stem Zoots can still be alright for trials - especially if you're not used to riding trials bikes but have experience riding mountain bikes. The jump from a 'normal' bike to a high BB 24" or 26" bike can put people off a bit, from chatting to people in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Would it be possible to go from Zoot to Echo 24 by only a frame change( plus one or two smaller things)? So for example If i realize that I want comp bike, Will I have a cheap and fast route to go there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Yes, at the most you would need to get a different stem and rear brake/rear brake adaptor but you could get the frame and swap everything across pretty easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) I started on a Zoot 24" but then later went 26" and was one of the best decisions I ever made but now i'm thinking 24" trials as its seems to be the perfect balance between 20" and 26". Once i got on my mates 24" I noticed a bit of a change in my riding i felt a bit more comfortable easier to maintain my balance and felt quite flicky and still was able to do everything i could on a 26" but with a bit more control. Not tried a 20" properly but thats my experience since i started riding trials Edited September 6, 2013 by Culshaw95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 unless you crave streety riding, teg a decent tgs machine and learn to ride trials solidly, then transfer to a streetier machine if you feel the need, it's harder to learn real trials on a 'streety' bike and it's not as easy as a bmx to ride street on. not that you can't, but i prefer to have the right bike for the task.. Learning to ride on a very trialsy bike could leave a lot of bad habbits that you'll have to un-learn if you ever wanted to take up other types of riding. I always recommend people start on a neutral style bike (shorter, low bb) and really learn how to ride a bike, THEN if you want to get more into comps or TGS the transition will be easy and you'll have more style. It's a lot harder the other way round and you'll not be such a good bike handler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I side with Ali, beginner bikes are best being neutral. That way you can explore to figure out how you want to ride, rather than be streamlined into one type of riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 is zoot neutral? sorry, for me this number does not means a lot :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Yeah it's pretty neutral, if you go for one though I'd recommend a Pro if you can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I started to use BikeBuilder but it will cost around 700 ( if we use the cheapest options) and that is out of my league so it will be a zoot and I will see where do I want to go How reliable is that bike? Im not heavy, probably I will bash it, but i wont do big gaps or stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I checked the geo of Echo pure and Koxx hydroxx 26, and they same nearly the same there is a guy with a hydroxx and I tried it and I liked it Im looking for a bike for a long term, like for a year or more what should I do, go with the sure option, or make a risk with zoot/ echo 24? more I thought about, the more I realize I would like to do something more, like a streety comp, so not that bmx like ... or maybe I just make my life hard with overthinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I'd get the 26 echo if it were me but purely because its very close to what I ride now and have done for 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I'd get the 26 echo if it were me but purely because its very close to what I ride now and have done for 2 years im still thinking about Echo 24, and if that wont suit me, then I just get a zoot or inspired frame and ill have a proper bike with proper brakes and parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 best bet would be something allround,and then,well,just ride. riding is the best way to find your riding style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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