Semaj Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) I was having a wee mess about on the onza rip today and the chain broke..... The only thing i can fathom is it wasn't fitted so well by the previous owner as its fairly new...... What size chain do I need and what's a decent one to buy? Cheers...... Edited June 16, 2013 by Semaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/chains/kmc_z610_hx_332_inch/c7p11539.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/chains/kmc_z610_hx_332_inch/c7p11539.html Cheers dude,does it come with both the split link and rivet link? I can't tell from the description,it goes on about the split link but doesn't recommend using it so I'm guessing it must have the rivet link as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) I just watched a video on YouTube of a guy fitting a new chain and all he did was using the tool push the pin in place and that was it.... Is that right?i would have thought it would need riveted at least. I'm still wondering why the hell mine broke,I'll get a pic up later of it as the side plate has bent outward.......this is suppose to be a recently fitted chain . I'm convinced this chain is 1/8th Edited June 16, 2013 by Semaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 They don't need riveting, just rejoining with a split link. The ones they come with aren't brilliant so tarty recommend getting one of these http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/chains/kmc_split_link/c7p11014.html instead though they're currently out of stock. Should be able to pick one up from Halfords though. Does that chain have a split link fitted? If not it could have been rejoined and not had the ends of the pin splayed over which would explain it pulling out and bending the plates like it has. As a word of warning if you ride regularly it's advised you get a new chain at least twice a year as they do take some hammer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) The chan definitely didn't have a split link fitted so I'm guessing its as you say.....they hadn't been splayed over and has worked it's way out. I've ordered that one you gave me the link to so that will work a treat and at least I know for sure that it's got a brand new one fitted. I can't attempt any tricks just now because of my wrist so there's no rush...... I've just noticed on the link you gave for the split link that someone has asked what size link to buy for a std onza chain and they recommend the 1/8th so I'm confused as that's the size of the chain that broke (I think) The one I've just bought is the 3/32 Edited June 16, 2013 by Semaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Yeah don't worry about that, the 3/32 is more than up to the job. You don't need to run a specific sized chain as it's a single speed gear setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 One thing to note, is make sure your chain line is right, or you will carry on snapping them. It has to be straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_SPAWN Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 The chain could have broken/weakened because of a bad landing onto it... If thats the only problem with the bike I think youv got a good purchase there. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I received the replacement chain today and it has 128 links........so I need to erse about with it,happy days. Edited June 18, 2013 by Semaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 127 link one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Take some links out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 127 link one? I edited my post,meant to say 128. At first I thought they have sent me the wrong chain but it seems not.i was hoping to fit it straight without ersing about but I'll remove some of the links but do the pins push straight out or are they riveted??they look as if they are flared out but its hard to tell. I also don't have the tool,I do have a chain tool for motorcycle chains but I'm not sure if its small enough to push the pin out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If you have a grinder just use that and grind the head of the pin off the link you want to remove, otherwise you'll have to get hold of a chain tool for bicycles. A BMX one will be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I'll go order one,I need to remove loads of links but at least I'll have plenty spare.......I can also use them on the other chain that broke as it is the same size chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Is this anything to worry about,is it normal for this to bent out like this? The rear sprocket does appear to be straight inline and the rear wheel matches the front Looking at this pic it makes the rear wheel look well out of line but it isn't as bad when you compare it to the front......doesn't look right though does it? I think I'll loosen it off and adjust it equally on both sides and see if that I'm Oves the way it looks.... Edited June 18, 2013 by Semaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Yeah I wouldn't worry too much about that. If they get worse just swap for some Gusset chaintugs which are a bit stronger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Yeah the chain tugs supplied with onza rips are like cheese, I ended up braking one off a 3ft drop.. Gusset ones with sort that out but it's ride-able for now, I ended up machining my own out of steel though.. They never let me down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenmx50 Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 My advise would be to avoid any split link at all costs! Use the chain to tool to shorten the chain to the correct length, this will be much stronger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 The saga continues Purchased the chain tool which arrived today(rapid delivery) and reduced the new chain down to the size required. Put the chain in place and the fecker doesn't fit the rear sprocket.....wtf?? I'm not sure if its a std onza sprocket or not and as far as I am aware it was replaced so it could be something to do with this. I thought the chain that had broke was the same size as the new one but it isn't,and it obviously fits the sprocket fine. Pain in the ass this is haha....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 You got any pics of the rear sprocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 You got any pics of the rear sprocket? Here you go dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Needs a wider chain. 1/8 should fit Edited June 19, 2013 by dezmtber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj Posted June 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 That will be 16 bucks wasted then......fook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 What brand is that freewheel. It looks like some cheap bmx one. Maybe worth getting a tensile or echo freewheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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