Canardweb Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Hello, I really have been trying, but riding the 365 chainstay length on my Breath 20" frame really makes it ride like a small 26" bike and makes everything why a mod is nice to ride disappear. So now I need a new frame. What I want is a 1000+ (ideally 1010 wheelbase), around +80 BB height and of course short chainstays (350). I hesitate with the Onza Genesis 20" frame which seems popular but very light (which makes me worried), getting a Because Color 2013 frame again, or a Neon Bow 2010 frame. If anybody has had one of these, or knows someone who has or has heard of, please let me know. Every other advices to help me are of course welcome!!! Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Why would you be worried of the Genesis 20" being light out of interest? I'm fairly sure the proto (if it's the proto) was tested for yonks before they were released and although battered and not 100% identical to the production frame, it's still in one piece after going through Carthy, Ross Clayton and Jeffrey who REALLY hammered it. Awesome frames. I'd probably go for one if I wanted another 20". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinfor Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I dont know much about the geos and what happens when you change what, but the Echo Lite SL 2011 has the exact geo you mentioned. And the Born Ultimatum seem pretty close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Why would you be worried of the Genesis 20" being light out of interest? I'm fairly sure the proto (if it's the proto) was tested for yonks before they were released and although battered and not 100% identical to the production frame, it's still in one piece after going through Carthy, Ross Clayton and Jeffrey who REALLY hammered it. Awesome frames. I'd probably go for one if I wanted another 20". Thanks a lot. That helps. I dont know much about the geos and what happens when you change what, but the Echo Lite SL 2011 has the exact geo you mentioned. And the Born Ultimatum seem pretty close. Sorry, I can't take the Echo Lite SL 2011 as I want to ride dual rim brakes. I haven't mentionned that though. I hate the look of the Born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Because colour 2013 Neon x ray Ozonys curve v4 20" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I'd personally go for the Genesis! I'll leave this here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Just got a Genesis myself. First Trials bike since 2007 and im loving it. Its taking a fair old bashing with me trying all the old moves again. Would definitely recommend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Are you not liking the breath ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Onza have deffinately up'd their game these days! Only one Limey cracked so far that is unbelieveably if you ask me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 and also the breath has 359mm chainstay http://www.breathbike.com/_d275710829.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 It would only work out at 359mm if you ran 18:13 though - if you run 18:12, with a brand new chain it'd work out as 361.7mm or 349.0mm which is why most mod frames quote either 362mm or 350mm stays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Are you not liking the breath ? As I said, it just doesn't ride as a mod. Mark, are you talking about the Breath frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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