ashleys sugden Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Hi everyone, there is always a f*cking problem with my bike, and this is one i can not get my head around.. no matter how tight i tighten my wheel, it just moves, its done it all today, and pretty much ruined the day. the axle doesn't even reach the bolt caps. which means it shouldn't move in theory, but it still does. i tried more spaces on the axle, that didn't work either. its definitely not the threads in the axle. and it never comes loose. ive put the bearings in the hub the other way around, turned the the spacers around, pretty much everything i can think of, but nothing has worked! sorry this might not make any sense at all, but surely someone must know what i mean? sorry, its really hard to explain. Thanks Ash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 If this is on your echo 24, once you set the wheel up tighten the wheel, then do the chain tensioner up a bit more. If it's the inspired then no idea sorry, shouldn't move if it's vertical dropouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 yeah its the 24" echo mate!, thing is, one of the threads have stripped on the tension ioners, although its been like that for ages with no problems, just started doing it today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 that's your problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 that's your problem its been threaded for ages though, like 8 months, i dont see why it would start doing it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I get what you're saying but that has to be the issue, tap it to m5/m6 whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 i think if i tapped it, it would possibly break through :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 If you don't tap it, drill it and get a nut and bolt in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Nut and bolt? It's got to be tapped, or find a bolt with a sharper thread, sometimes works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Nut and bolt? It's got to be tapped, or find a bolt with a sharper thread, sometimes works. Yeah should work as a last resort. The onza integrated tensioners come with a nut. Stops the bolt going back out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah but think about it, that nut's there as a locking nut. If he has no thread the thing will fall out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah but think about it, that nut's there as a locking nut. If he has no thread the thing will fall out. Surely if the axle is pushing against the bolt, and the nut was stopping the bolt from essentially falling out of the frame due to no thread so it should work? Or am I missing something and making a massive tit of myself lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Surely if the axle is pushing against the bolt, and the nut was stopping the bolt from essentially falling out of the frame due to no thread so it should work? Or am I missing something and making a massive tit of myself lol. you're missing something. . . Think of the location of the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 you're missing something. . . Think of the location of the bolt. In the drilled out tensioner hole. Bolt goes on the side with the axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 In the drilled out tensioner hole. Bolt goes on the side with the axle. You didn't state what side you put the nut on initially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 i could put a nut on each side of the bolt i suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Moss Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 If this is on your echo 24, once you set the wheel up tighten the wheel, then do the chain tensioner up a bit more. If it's the inspired then no idea sorry, shouldn't move if it's vertical dropouts.I've tried it and mine still comes loose. Anyone know if snail cams would make an impact on the spacing? My threads are fine by the way, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 yours moves too sam?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Moss Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ye even when everything is as tight as possible, I'm going to put snail cams on, just not sure if they will make things worse. Like the hub axel may not be flush on the snail cam, you get me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Moss Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I'm sure snail cams will work and keep the grub screws in as well. That's the only thing I can think off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 i tried more axle spacers and things like that. mines exactly the same problem as yours then man aha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 clean the clamping surface, grease the axle bolt and torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 How is it even possible to strip that thread?.. Or any thread in that case.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 because its a w*ank ally frame! everything made from ally is just crap. For trials bikes^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 because its a w*ank ally frame! everything made from ally is just crap. For trials bikes^ Pretty hard to put one in squint though? I've got 2 Echo frames and haven't stripped a thread on either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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