bing Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Trialtech cranks for the win 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 ^ Yeah, what about the new SL ones? They look genuinely good if some high end cranks are in order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Trialtech cranks for the win I've had nothing but problems with TrialTech cranks. Stripped the FFW threads on both my sets. :-/ they look cheap as shit too imo. On Echo TRs now, so shall see how those fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I've had nothing but problems with TrialTech cranks. Stripped the FFW threads on both my sets. :-/ they look cheap as shit too imo. On Echo TRs now, so shall see how those fair. The new trialtech's have massive amount of threads, i cant see you stripping them with a sensible width bashring to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 The amount of threads wasnt the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Any set of TR cranks my riding group has had bent like wet paper. One mate is now using a butchered one to protect the rear disc on his manus. IMO this is a waaay better use for it. hehe My cheapy T/techs have been fine for over a year of fourplay bashing however. Edited May 7, 2013 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Any set of TR cranks my riding group has had bent like wet paper. NO.WAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Yup. two sets for one mate as well as stripping the pedal threads out despite the pedals being tight and another bent them like the aforementioned cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Sorry. none exist. TR's weren't even worth the battery power... This was the ride where one set died - if that counts. Sorry if you've just bought some BTW, didn't mean to p*ss on your cornflakes or owt. As said earlier, Echo quality seems to be bi-polar at the mo'. IMO Deng is pushing the tolerances a bit too much in search on lightness that just ain't there, and the results are either perfectly fine or complete disaster. (TR cranks, SL freewheels, TR pedal axles (after a while admittedly), front TR hub axles, TR sprockets etc. etc.) There seems to be no middle ground either. I used to be a big echo fan too. On one build 75% must have been echo parts, Now I have a Deng free bike; that's how much my opinion/taste has changed. If I ever do use echo again it probably won't be the new stuff being pumped out at the moment Edited May 7, 2013 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 My bike is deng free, that's the way its staying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 stripping the pedal threads out despite the pedals being tight Same happened to mine, utter crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 So I'm not quite talking rubbish. YAY! Boo about your cranks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Sorry. none exist. TR's weren't even worth the battery power... This was the ride where one set died - if that counts. Sorry if you've just bought some BTW, didn't mean to p*ss on your cornflakes or owt. I haven´t , but I had been using the old tr´s for 4seasons then sold them, after another 2years they are still going strong. Also used new tr´s for full season and they were the stiffest isis cranks I´ve tried, miles stiffer than tt cranks. Again, they are on my brothers bike now(another year problem free). I weighted between 200-220 when I was using them btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkdougie Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Same happened to mine, utter crap And me. Try all elite cranks for the win Edited May 7, 2013 by thinkdougie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I wanted very much for these to work out, but it seems my expectations are more realistic than my hopes Have to wonder at Deng's testing procedures (if there are any). What went wrong?! Why start trying to compete with Koxx when you have such a large share of the market already (back when he made the trademark strong-Deng parts)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Why start trying to compete with Koxx when you have such a large share of the market already (back when he made the trademark strong-Deng parts)? Because that´s what spoiled kids buy these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 It'd be nice to see a bit hard wearing stuff aimed at tgs riders rather than just lightweight comp parts or street parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 But that's where the market is these days I guess. Plus the majority of parts out there are strong and light enough to be seen on a TGS or a comp bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 From what I've seen its all getting lighter and weaker.I've seen a fair bit of stuff break lately. The market is that way is because that's what these companies think people want but I think there is a growing demand for slightly heavier, stronger parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 From what I've seen its all getting lighter and weaker.I've seen a fair bit of stuff break lately. The market is that way is because that's what these companies think people want but I think there is a growing demand for slightly heavier, stronger parts. Agreed. I went through a weight weenie stage through winter last year and I've slowly changed my limey 4 with stronger and heavier parts. At the moment I'd love pedals identical to the echo tr platforms but with a stronger axle to be brought out. It's a shame how a lot of parts that are deemed strong are from around 2 years ago or more. Echo forks for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Trialtech stuff is pretty strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Bit late here, but... 1) Pedal threads don't 'just strip'. The pedal is ALWAYS loose when this happens (or it's already damaged - from the pedals having been ridden loose). 2) There are plenty of strong parts around, just everyone wants to try and make their bike lighter. We tend to find that a lot of customers buy parts that are too light for their needs (even after advice), then moan when they break. 3) Don't want to worry about your cranks breaking? Don't buy really light cranks with holes in! 4) If you still want to buy some really light stuff, buy parts that have had lots of testing, rather than 'never-been-seen-before-then-suddenly-on-sale' items. This will also give a message to trials companies that customers won't put up with substandard stuff and a lack of R&D. 5) It would be impossible to put an 'average life' on products, there are just too many variables. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Trialtech stuff is pretty strong. In general most trialtech parts are strong and light enough, apart from the cranks. The material is just to soft. I'm a little disappointed that people arnt greatful that companies are trying to develop better trials components, it's a big factor that's pushed the limits of riding to today's standards. People starting off trials these days have it so easy. Regarding the technology of bikes compared with ten years ago. These days you can learn a back hop in ten mins with bikes that are light and sit on the rear wheel with ease. Of course the limited testing that companies such as echo are doing which is very limited is a draw back but trials parts take a very different level oh abuse from different riding styles it's impossible to test conclusively. That's where you as the rider really needs to consider every thing fully before buying a 300gram pair of cranks to do 12ft drop gaps over and over At the end of the days it's comon sense and I would rather see the limits being explored rather than just stagnating So there will be failures! That's just part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Bit late here, but... 2) There are plenty of strong parts around, just everyone wants to try and make their bike lighter. We tend to find that a lot of customers buy parts that are too light for their needs (even after advice), then moan when they break. 3) Don't want to worry about your cranks breaking? Don't buy really light cranks with holes in! 5) It would be impossible to put an 'average life' on products, there are just too many variables. 2) Is a reset ti bb and tryall cranks okay for a basher then? Just curious. 3) So true, it looks cool but really is unpractical and dangerous in my opinion, I don't see mountain bikes or road bikes with this so I don't see why a trials company is. 5) Not at all? People seem to do a good job of it on forums, even if it is just a rough estimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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