Front End set up.

[BradJohnson]

I'm needing a little advice on setting up my front end.

Basically i have an Onza Genesis stock, and i'm finding it hard to tap and switch as the front doesn't feel as though it wants to pull up and i have a feeling it's something to do with the way i have it set up. I've tried different bars and bar angles and i cut the forks down because the front end didn't feel right when sat up on the rear wheel.

I'm currently running:
Standard Onza forks, cut down to allow the head set cap which classes as a 5mm spacer and a 10mm spacer.
I have a TryAll 150x30 stem
and standard tensile bars (i have Trial-tech High-risers in the post to try out) and i've also tried Tryall Carbons.

Theoretically with the TT's having more rise the front end should pull up easier because of more leverage right?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks Brad.

Edited April 4, 2013 by BradJohnson

[bing]

Depends on the angle at which your bars are set. The more rolled back they are, the more you centre of gravity is moved towards the rear, therefore easier to lift the front. Vice versa if they are rolled forward. You might have to roll the bars right forward to get the upsweep in the right place, with highrisers, this is gonna put your CoG further forward, putting more weight towards the front. My suggestion would be to get a higher rise stem and lower rise trialtechs, ie one of those tryall k2 jobs. After watching a few people ride with them on, they look better for it. Add bb rise into the mix, and its a mine field

[AdamR28]

If the front end doesn't feel like it wants to pull up, you need higher bars or a shorter cockpit - roll the bars back IMO.

This will also help with taps.

[bing]

That's kinda what I was getting at, although I'd say it depends on the up sweep angle of the bars, if you roll them back to make the front easier to get up, surely this will place your wrists at a downward angle on the rear wheel, therefore making rear wheel moves a bit ore difficult? That's why I suggested a higher rise stem, but I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time

[BradJohnson]

If the front end doesn't feel like it wants to pull up, you need higher bars or a shorter cockpit - roll the bars back IMO.

This will also help with taps.

Glad to hear i did the correct thing by ordering the TT's (taking advantage of the 10% off tarty offer) hopefully they will arrive tomorrow so i can have a play around with the angles.

I'm sick of trying to tap and just riding into walls

That's kinda what I was getting at, although I'd say it depends on the up sweep angle of the bars, if you roll them back to make the front easier to get up, surely this will place your wrists at a downward angle on the rear wheel, therefore making rear wheel moves a bit ore difficult? That's why I suggested a higher rise stem, but I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time

When Adam say's rolled back, i assume he means to a normal MTB style angle, not so much that the back sweep turns to down sweep.

[N.Wood]

Thats a pretty long stem for a +55 imo, so having the bars rolled back should make it feel better to pull up, like Adam said. As its a long stem, it will make it pretty easy on the backwheel anyway so wouldn't worry about rear wheel performance.

I reckon a long stem plus rolled back bars = good or a slightly shorter (127mm with quite a few stackers for example) stem with bars rolled forward a bit more = good.