planet x alan Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Going to be building myself a new wheel set next month and have been toying with the idea of a half radial spoke pattern on the rear. (3x on drive side and radial non drive). Are there going to be any issues with wheel flex? especially when doing power moves? I used to own a very old monty mod back in the day which had half radial on the rear which was fine but was just wondering if the extra length on the spokes would create flex problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I used wheel for few months built like that, it wasn´t very noticable in either good or bad way, so I would stick to standard 3crossed pattern, no reason not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I used wheel for few months built like that, it wasn´t very noticable in either good or bad way, so I would stick to standard 3crossed pattern, no reason not to. Surely this means its as good as a 3x both side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Surely this means its as good as a 3x both side No, it means I couldn´t tell the difference, so there´s no reason to put more stress on the hub flange, that´s why I told him to stick to 3x crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Surely this means its as good as a 3x both side I used wheel for few months built like that, it wasn´t very noticable in either good or bad way, so I would stick to standard 3crossed pattern, no reason not to. He means there's no point in doing it, there's no advantages to it IMO I wouldn't go for it.. I've got it in my head that radial lacing is weaker.. And that would be in the back of my mind before attempting something :/ Edited March 25, 2013 by Danny00135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 He means there's no point in doing it, there's no advantages to it. YES IMO I wouldn't go for it.. I've got it in my head that radial lacing is weaker.. And that would be in the back of my mind before attempting something :/ Radial lacing is laterally stiffer, but vertically weaker and also weaker in torsion. That´s why there isn´t wheel with radial lacing on drive side(or disc side). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The advantage is it's lighter because the spokes are shorter and its easier to lace ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The advantage is it's lighter because the spokes are shorter and its easier to lace ? Yes, you would save 15grams on wheel while making it easier to buckle. Good trade off for sure, that´s why everyone uses it. Oh wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I'd much rather have a strong build than save a few grams, whatever kind of trials it is. Having a strong build means you have to true the wheel less too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The advantage is it's lighter because the spokes are shorter and its easier to lace ? That's like saying it's easier to peel a banana than an orange. Yes it is.. But are you really incapable of peeling an orange? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 That's like saying it's easier to peel a banana than an orange. Yes it is.. But are you really incapable of peeling an orange? I gotta say that made me laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 That's like saying it's easier to peel a banana than an orange. Yes it is.. But are you really incapable of peeling an orange? Good try Dan but it more like saying its easier to lace radial than 3X :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Good try Dan but it more like saying its easier to lace radial than 3X :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I´m confused, never used spoon or roll it like that before peeling, I suck at oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I´m confused, never used spoon or roll it like that before peeling, I suck at oranges. Maybe you should stick to radial lacing too But I agree.. who uses a spoon? O.o And Now this topic is about oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet x alan Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I made it smaller so you don't see the image again.. I'm nice like that This is going straight on facebook!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I used to like you Alan, and you Dan </3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 3x > Radial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Now this thread has everything. Good job everyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet x alan Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Yeah, so back on topic. Nobody is yet to say "yes it's fine I've ran half radial for ages and I'm an absolute powerhouse". Therefore I'm less less tempted to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Yeah, so back on topic. Nobody is yet to say "yes it's fine I've ran half radial for ages and I'm an absolute powerhouse". Therefore I'm less less tempted to do it. I said that in first reply lol? I don´t know if I´m powerhouse but I weighted approx 200 when I was using it and was prolly more powerful than 99% of guys on this forum. The question is why you wanna use it? Edited March 25, 2013 by ghostrider88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet x alan Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 why you wanna use it? Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Why not? Because it has no real advantage over 3x crossed and possibly few drawbacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I use radial one side on the front wheel with a 180mm hope disc fitted on the 3x side. Seems fine to me. I build wheels and will have time to check spokes and true the wheel if it ever needs it. Front wheel is viz rim on onza disc hub, 3 months old, has had loads of learning to front and drops upto 5 foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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