FamilyBiker Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) so,guys n girls,i´m bored of waiting for it so i thought i´d show the building progress and see what people think about it. full bike pics will be added on the day it arrives,to say the least i´m an impatient personality and having a full bicycle workshop at work will get me to build it instantly when its here haha. geo is 1025/355-370/+50/73°,and marino and me tried to put as much custom into it as possible so the tubing is very thin,a tensioner mount for my selfmade tensioner concept is attached under the right cs,and the letters on the frame are my design,too. comments are welcome greets peter edit:may i add the fact "cuy" is the spanish word for guinea pig,i found it funny those animals climb rocks more than twice their own body lenght in height,pretty much a goal for a human trials rider to achieve lol. in peru cuy is the national food,yikes,nother funny fact edit:today the stuff arrived(well,here in germany you got to go to customs to get it),stoked like hell,tomorrow my boss will see me in the workshop despite i´m off this week!got to build this! sorry for the fuzzy carpet,its packaging material(i was in de-packing rage lol),and i was to lazy to get the vacuum cleaner out before taking the pic... edit 2:So,the bikes built up,let me know what you think. had a quick roll around on it,all i can tell so far is that it sits on the rearwheel for the time of a cigarette,and its bunnyhoppable and spinny. every measurement is how its meant to be,it ended up 1030/+52/358/ with a 22:17 gear ratio. only thing i have to manage now is my tensioner(one hole has to be made offset to get to my chainline,didnt think it would be that far out) and the usual adjustments during riding. pretty happy now! weight 11,56kg Edited March 29, 2013 by FamilyBiker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=59925'>4-el tensioner mount.JPG Those dropouts look really good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant wildman Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Drop outs are alot neater than some of the old Marinos I've had. Interested to see you're tensioner , but you have horizontal drop outs , do you need one? Like the Geo too . Marino forks look awful though (in general). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) Interested to see you're tensioner , but you have horizontal drop outs , do you need one? Marino forks look awful though (in general). tensioner is pretty much a sheet cut out of a saw blade with a teflon glider and held onto the frame with v-brake spacers for alignment,then. its needed for me as with the planned gear ratio i have to go a bit forwards with the same chain lenght as before,letting room to change back to 22:16 if 22:17 isnt my bag. havent ridden a marino fork other than an old mild steel one that was pretty heavy but solid though,i´ll see what its like Edited March 8, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Leech Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Drop outs are alot neater than some of the old Marinos I've had. Interested to see you're tensioner , but you have horizontal drop outs , do you need one? 4th lot down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) marinos are forged,not cast. edit:thinking that over ,everything could be cast,then forged haha Edited March 8, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 yep Y1 possibly tey look nice but thats cheating, nothing like home made pie 4th lot down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I might just order some of those Surly horizontal dropouts, shoul fit my Pashley perfectly 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) yep Y1 possibly tey look nice but thats cheating, nothing like home made pie some people can cook delicious meals with stuff from the discounter. others make their own stuff. at the end of the day it depends on the cooks skills. Edited March 9, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic3vil Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Frame, looks good although I'm not a fan of short seat tubes, but since this is a more trials oriented rig (50+ BB) I guess is alright. It's pretty obvious that the dropouts are from catalog which I think its awesome to have the possibility to choose dropout design without adding cost and I think if Peter asked for something more custom he wouldn't refuse. I guess there's things more important to the general quality of a custom frame than catalog dropouts, for example metal grade, heat-treatment and welding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) thanks andré,the short seattube thing is basically to have the possibility to cut down the seattube overlap if it turns out so trialsy that a seat is nonsense. pretty aware of that,its quite over the line between street and trials,towards trials. edit:i know a seat is nonsense on even a streeet trials bike,but it makes the look complete,you know what i mean though Edited March 9, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 the tensioner,for those who are interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 the tensioner,for those who are interested Ghetto as f**k. Get a heatsink/74kings, much more eyesight friendly. Nice frame. Bored of seeing the word "Marino" now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 diy rules!weights half of any available tensioner,and is bash proof(have the same thing since years but ziptied instead of a dedicated mount. and i cant see the word echo anymore,everyones different :wink2: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Could probably do with some spherical seat washers on that chain device a la v brake/avid cps fixings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Why wouldn't you just use the bolt through tensioners which are 100% lighter than yours and bash proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I don't understand why it even needs that tensioner? It has horizontal dropouts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Could probably do with some spherical seat washers on that chain device a la v brake/avid cps fixings. this is how its planned Why wouldn't you just use the bolt through tensioners which are 100% lighter than yours and bash proof? because its 42g "heavy" and thats with the maggie braze-on on the pic, imo the only lighter thing is a spoke tensioner edit:its exactly half the weight of the heatsink,haha! I don't understand why it even needs that tensioner? It has horizontal dropouts? as said above,to stay variable in options,like say going to 22:17 in gearing,if i dont like it and want the rear brake aligned the same way//same chainstay lenght when going back to 22:16,its no problem.at the second my chain always has slack points due to chainwheel wearing unevenly from pedal kicks,wich i dont like as well Edited March 10, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 as said above,to stay variable in options,like say going to 22:17 in gearing,if i dont like it and want the rear brake aligned the same way//same chainstay lenght when going back to 22:16,its no problem.at the second my chain always has slack points due to chainwheel wearing unevenly from pedal kicks,wich i dont like as well Why not just have vertical dropouts then? it's like you've taken the disadvantages of each and made them into one O.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Why not just have vertical dropouts then? it's like you've taken the disadvantages of each and made them into one O.o whats the disadvantage of having every possible option?? if i´d just get a bigger tyre or another rim i´d be rubbing my tyre on the seat tube or chainstays(cs from 355 to 370mm to cover 2 transmission ratios and 2 tyre sizes without the brake beeing out of the rims range or vice versa),so i can go back a few mm. its multiple reasons i did this like it is,not a noob in such stuff (bike technician) Edited March 10, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 whats the disadvantage of having every possible option?? Ah now I understand why you're doing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) edit:oh,wanted to introduce my cactus while you replied lol Edited March 10, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) next and last step before building:customs. oh wait,did i bump? :wink2: if i had known how to embed animations here it´d have been indiana jones style lol Edited March 26, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 stuff arrived,see page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Bike´s finished,see post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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