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Recycling round here is a farce, and we refuse to do it.

We've been told by our friend in the know (council) that the majority of those with recycling bins within our area dont bother splitting their rubbish into waste and recyclable goods, and throw it in any bin. Result - it all goes to a non recycling tip, regardless of what bin it came from.




The planet will be fine. My outlook is that if it ends, it ends. Not like we can mourn the loss of it if we're all dead.

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http://www.avaaz.org/en/murdoch_tell_climate_truth_uk/?bxHkedb&v=29589

Hi, all. If everyone could sign this petition, papers like the Daily Fail will be pressured to stop reporting bull crap in light of overwhelming evidence.

And if you pay the bills where you live, ring http://www.goodenergy.co.uk/ and ask to swap your energy supplier over to them.

If you don't pay the bills, ask your parents to ring goodenergy and have them swap, it's free and easy to do :)

Joe

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Signing online petitions does nothing.

Also, 100% renewable energy is hardly sustainable. I think the problem is, people won't adapt their lifestyles to deal with global warming, and that starts with us, not governments. Go stand at a motorway services for an hour and calculate the percentage of vehicles with a single occupant.

I think it's good that fuel and energy prices are going up, because it'll force us to question the necessity of our usage and to find other ways. Because unless people save money, they won't change their lifestyles.

Also, this thread is bollocks.

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Actually petitions can work - numerous ones I've signed have achieved their goals. That isn't to say they always work or even that they work more than less but that it does happen.

Do you mean the possibility of all our energy needs being met by renewable sources is not possible rather than sustainable? Because those sources of energy are essentially 100% sustainable by definition. The sun, wind, tide, etc. will probably all outlast the human species and are therefore sustainable (enduring) whereas, for example, oil is significantly more finite. If you did mean possibility rather than sustainability, well, there's no real reason to say that. The trend is a continued increase toward more efficient technology for renewable energy:

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/07/02/2241721/new-solar-cell-could-theoretically-be-pound-for-pound-1000-times-more-powerful-than-any-other/

Perhaps we might not make 100% of our energy from renewable sources but we might get pretty close and that's the point - getting as close as we can. Saying that it's a failure if we don't get to 100% doesn't really say much. What's important is that we get beyond the 15% (I think?) that we're currently on.

I agree that people need to contribute within their own lives to the problem of global warming (turning off lights, efficient travel, etc.) but this is only one dimension to the problem. Government isn't fulfilling its democratic and representative role. It tends to side with big business rather than properly regulating it which is what most of us would like. Thus, there are no real policies - that are significant - to reduce global warming caused by industry. There's no significant investment in the science that might displace oil because that would also displace the profits of powerful interests. Again, this is what the government should be doing if they were doing their job correctly. However, as the saying goes, and going back to your point somewhat, "the people get the government they deserve." It is our job to make sure those who we allow to dictate the structure of economy, law, etc. are doing their job correctly. If we don't then whatever happens is just as much our fault.

I know the following article is regarding Americans but it's pretty much the same here. I forget some of the statistics regarding people's preference to see global warming move to the front of our government's agenda but it was significant - definitely in the majority. Anyway:

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/10/08/204773/energy-and-global-warming-news-for-october-8-92-of-americans-support-solar-power-development-study-says/

The predominant issue with rising energy costs is that not everyone can afford them. It's not so much that people are just misspending so this will be a good lesson to them but more so that *many* live in poverty of near poverty in the UK and increases in energy bills mean an inability to pay. This is especially important for older people to whom a cold or heated house is literally the difference between life and death. This also needs to be understood within the context of substantial increases in profit margin of energy companies. Should we pay more simply so business can keep increasing their financial growth? Should people miss out on basic necessities for that reason?

I don't think the thread is bad. It's an opportunity to discuss some important topics, maybe dispel some bad but popular myths that are promulgated by a socioeconomic system that is significantly structured to defend elite interests - interests that are so short term that it's fair to define them as insane when considered alongside the harm that is caused. What's the point in having lots of money in the bank if the world is f**ked? It doesn't make sense. Anyhow, debate is good. It's a shame you think otherwise.

Edit: Did you mean sustainability in terms of environmental harm? I'm a bit confused about what you meant to be honest.

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I think it's good that fuel and energy prices are going up, because it'll force us to question the necessity of our usage and to find other ways. Because unless people save money, they won't change their lifestyles.

That's why sites like bla bla car are good: http://www.blablacar.com/

I haven't tried this out yet but I could go to LONDON for £15 and meet someone new on the way. Or If you have your own car you would get your fuel cost back if you fill your seats :dance:

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okay, f*ck off with your "science", lets make this thread title true!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/large-hadron-collider/11489442/Big-Bang-theory-could-be-debunked-by-Large-Hadron-Collider.html

In CERN they are about to create some black holes to prove new dimensions! okay, let me explain this

There is are equations ( only care to open it if you are drunk and/or have too much freetime, or you are a scientist) that basically says that if you create small black holes at "only 5 TeV (Terravolt, stupid amount of power still) then it will prove that there are 6 dimensions, if they can create a blackhole at 10 TeV it proves 10. In dimension I am not talking about an alternate universe where you are shagging Mila Kunis and Jennifer Lawrence on a daily basis(sadly) but much like the 3 dimension we live in and the 4th dimension, time, we try to live in.

Here is a small article by CERN to help explain this

Quantum physics, disproving Albert Einstein, called "spooky action at distance"?

Basically there is a thing called quantum entanglement. It is a rather strange thing, that actually proves, that a paired (entangled atom) can change its spin in a split second... at any distance. Read the article as they do a better job explaining than I will ever be able to, and there is a cool video as well

This article talks about how an hour extra sleep boots women sex drive by 14%/ so @dann2707 and @Jardo, just tell your Tinder "friends" to have a big sleep before you meet

I am sorry, there are no conspiracy theories, but true facts, that will change your life( or your child life)

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You want to ride a trials bike for 500 years? yes? great, than your future is in our Skynets hand, I want to say Google, where their health research group (seriously, they know our interests, what do we like, cars we will travel in, mobiles we are going to use... Terminator begins here) they say that in a "short" (50 ish years) period of time they might be able to make humans live for 500 years.... If chemtrails let you live, where they respond:

"Do not worry about chemtrails, the computers will rise in 2045, you will be long dead anyway lol"

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