cai Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 After 2 years my silver/original SL exploded (the outer ring snapped in 3 places) today whilst riding rocks, thankfully I'm not too hurt. I've had a look at the freewheel page on Tarty and the SL still looks like the top choice, but it's now black, is this still the same freewheel just with a colour change or has it had a complete re-design? Is it still as reliable as the original SL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 mine done that after 2 years too haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials-Mikey Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 i bought a sl from tarty bikes a couple months and it has held up well seems to be just as good if not better to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ive got one of the prototypes which is just terrible, what other choices are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The new ones aren´t what they used to be, but still the best fw out there. Maybe new try all could be contender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) Ive got one of the prototypes which is just terrible, what other choices are there? Tensile 96 click is really good once degreased. Edited February 27, 2013 by JMCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The new ones aren´t what they used to be, but still the best fw out there. Maybe new try all could be contender? looking at how shallow the teeth on the ratchet are, i'm going to say no....... vs the echo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ive got one of the prototypes which is just terrible, what other choices are there? There's not a huge choice. The Insprired 60 click looks the same as the 60 click Tensile freewheels, so both have the locking on the wrong side. The 72 click viz/rockman and 108 click viz/rockman/try-all/trialtech look like catalogue parts - they may be okay though? Then there's the Try-All 120.9 which could prove unreliable. The rest of them are out of my price range.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Then there's the Try-All 120.9 which could prove unreliable. They had an 108.9 ffw I think, it skipped LOADS for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 My tryall 108.9 is spot on. Never skipped on me, and sounds amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Mixed reviews for the Try-All then. I'd rather hear about the Echo SL. How is it any different than it used to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 they usually skip a bit at the beginning, nothing too bad, but it might cause damage to the pawls/outer ring=more skips/broken pawls. Outer rings are also more prone to breaking. This sounds bad I know, but you will have hard time finding better freewheel still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 My 'new' black SL is awesome, wouldn't change it against any other freewheel. Never skipped or anything like that. Sounds good aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Cheers for the information, I'm tempted to go for a free hub like a Pro II Trials now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 No problem If you can, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SamKidney Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Would be epic if they were made like the first lot. Feeleys got one of the original SL freewheels on his mod and it sounds completely different to my newer black SL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yea I agree Sam I still have a silver one and it's so much louder and more of a clicking noise than black one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yea I agree Sam I still have a silver one and it's so much louder and more of a clicking noise than black one I've got both, the silver one is louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Other than noise, is there a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 It certainly seems to be holding up better. The early SL freewheels were sweet, but it seems like the last few silver SL's were in the same boat as the current ones. Me and two mates bought them just before they were discontinued, and all ours broke in under 6 months. Either cracking, skipping or gradually loosing engagements. Im on my 3rd/4th SL now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Are ENO still a viable option, my old one was brilliant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Bit out of my price range and the locking is on the wrong (like the Tensile). I've got a Pro 2 Trials hub built onto a 26" rim so I'm going to build it onto my current 24" rim, it's a more reliable option than any of the current freewheels and I'll only have to fork out the money for spokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) i was going to say, how come everyone is running a FFW these days, they were only used for changing gears on a 26" when i started and everyone ran hope xc's. and if they are that unreliable still then what is the point. i have an original 06 hope pro 2 t on my bike at the moment, been there for the last 7 years, and there have been upgrades to this hub too so it hasnt even benefitted from the newer technology. and i would say i have been pretty harsh on my bike over the years. but no problems other than a bearing change and a spacer wearing. both easily replaced too. engagement points arent that important anyways. if you look at what people managed on 21ep hubs, its really more important to just control your chain tension slightly, 48 should be plenty. as for weight too, there is only about 100 grams in it with middleburn cranks or tryalls with a screw on cog and a light bash. unless you are going supremely light with ffw set up, but you arent with the SLs anyone care to shed any light about why you use them when they seem so shit? Edited March 1, 2013 by Ash-Kennard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I used the original SL as there were great reviews for them at the time, saying that the EP's were spot on and that they were very reliable, which was true. It just seems that they've gone downhill since. Over the last 4 years, whilst running a FFW on my 'trials bike', I've been running a Pro2 on my 'street bike' and its never skipped and they are so easy to service. Which is why I'll build that Pro2 onto my Echo TR rim. Not fussed on weight, I just want reliablillity.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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