Olly C Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hi people, I'm interested to hear and see what bar and stem combo everyone runs on their Fourplays.. I have an '09 Fourplay Frame with new Inspired Team Forks and currently three stem choices none of which feel right to me! It originally came with an "Onza Stubby" Stem of which I am unsure of the Geo (Anyone know of it?) but it looks like this: That felt too cramped and low for me so I swapped it over to a Toxsin one that had extra lenght but almost no rise, but that felt much worse.. I had one other stem to try which was an old ZOO! Mod stem (again usure of Geo, any ideas?) which has more rise and looks like this: It feels better with the bars raised up more but still obviously not an ideal setup, I still cant bunnyhop it with much confidence or manual too well on it either which is why I bought the bike and how I see others ride them, it feels like something about my setup is holding my riding back so any help would be great Cheers Olly. Also I'm like 6ft1 if it makes any difference but I come from riding Mod then Stock then BMX and now trying my hand on 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 That zoo stem is far too long, Which is why you'll have problems manualing it and bunnyhopping it. I think a lot of people use 90x35? or maybe it's 90x25? Not sure, hopefully ali or mark will comment with some more useful advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly C Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 My current line of thinking was to try something like this:http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_stems/bbb_forged/c41p11644.html Probably the 110mm version? Although I'm not sure how different that'll be to the Zoo! Stem I currently have on it.. Or if the 90mm would be a better choice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 90X35 with spacers to give a really high front end will feel a littler roomier than if it's low down plus you'll be able to bunnyhop and manual easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) I'm riding 45mm of stackers with 90mm/35dregree stem and TT highrise bars. I'm just under 6 foot. I really cant ride anything too low down now or too far out but some people can make it work. Maybe try the Onza stem with more rise bars or the 90X35 stem like Ali just suggested. Edit: Maybe I've got the 70 mm actually.... Edited February 21, 2013 by CalopS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Any longer than 90mm and you're doing it wrong! Get it stacked right up like Carl's shown too, it's the way to go for sure. Edited February 21, 2013 by Skoze 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Another vote for 90x35, fo' schizzle. I've tried 90x25 and 70x35 as well and they're just not as good. Haven't got the spacer for more stackers at the moment, but on the new ride I should be getting nice and high as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly C Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 90X35 with spacers to give a really high front end will feel a littler roomier than if it's low down plus you'll be able to bunnyhop and manual easier. So the 90mm BBB Stem I linked should do the trick then.. I'm riding 45mm of stackers with 90mm/35dregree stem and TT highrise bars. I'm just under 6 foot. I really cant ride anything too low down now or too far out but some people can make it work. Maybe try the Onza stem with more rise bars or the 90X35 stem like Ali just suggested. I've seen videos of your riding and saw how high your bars were and it looked comfortable to me too, same with Ben Rowlands setup, I also read how he had lower back pains from riding a low setup for years which is what I experienced heavily after just two rides with the lower stem on this Question though, you seem to have the same forks as me, how in the world have you got that many spacers on?? Also if you check the 3rd picture of mine are my bars the High Rise Inspired or the normal ones would you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The back pain could just be related to having not ridden that type of riding either recently or ever? Same as when you first start riding and you get random aches/pains that gradually go. But yeah, 90x35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 They just haven't been cut down. With that headset 45mm of stackers was enough to top the steerer by a few mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercofray Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 That zoo stem is far too long, Which is why you'll have problems manualing it and bunnyhopping it. Not necessarily, I used to run a 90X10 with a lot of stackers (not sure exactly) and just changed to a Trialtech 130X25 and it feels really good for manuals and bunnyhops. Feels good for trialsy stuff too which is what i was wanting. Just have a change and find what you like, majority do run 90X35 though, depends what you're looking for personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think it depends on your riding to an extent too. I found a longer stem was OK for more straight-liney stuff (e.g. just doing a manual forwards or trials stuff), but for spins and more 'trick' sort of stuff a shorter stem felt a lot better as you're just more neutral on the bike rather than being stretched out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly C Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The back pain could just be related to having not ridden that type of riding either recently or ever? Same as when you first start riding and you get random aches/pains that gradually go. But yeah, 90x35. Yea I know the usual aches and pains when I havent ridden in a month, but this was far worse than I've had before, the pains are still here a couple of months on, I'll ride though it I guess though.. They just haven't been cut down. With that headset 45mm of stackers was enough to top the steerer by a few mm If you buy an Inspired Fourplay full build I'm guessing the forks have been cut down more than if you buy the Team forks seperately? Mine came off a full build bike but dont appear to be cut down at all from what I can tell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The zoo stem you're running is like 160x25? Which for a streety bike is like the worst geo you could choose Let me know if you wanna sell it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not necessarily, I used to run a 90X10 with a lot of stackers (not sure exactly) and just changed to a Trialtech 130X25 and it feels really good for manuals and bunnyhops. Feels good for trialsy stuff too which is what i was wanting. Just have a change and find what you like, majority do run 90X35 though, depends what you're looking for personally. The zoo stem is an extra 30mm longer though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercofray Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The zoo stem is an extra 30mm longer though? Oh my bad ha.. I just saw it was long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 You always have the option of a Jaf steerer extension which would bring the stem up a bit higher. That's if you still have threads inside the forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Oh my bad ha.. I just saw it was long... Yeah the zoo stems are pretty much only good for making your bike a pogo stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerictgm Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Extend your steerer(maybe buy uncut fork) and try some 70-90mm 25-35 degrees stems. Someone say it's individual, but it seems that high bars and short (not too short) stem are awesome. If you feel that's something wrong - it's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Looks like High Rise bars dude - I also remember Rob coming up to get the parts and pretty sure they were the high ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly C Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Looks like High Rise bars dude - I also remember Rob coming up to get the parts and pretty sure they were the high ones... Cheers Adam, Just ordered the BBB Stem from Tartybikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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