bing Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm getting my new frame Friday, and am gonna do some weight weenie stuff. I can't afford stans ti, so I'm gonna use some alloy bolts on places like brake caliper mounts, lever clamps and maybe bars and stem if they are strong enough. where is safe to use them and where not? are they safe to use in axles? what do you lot use and where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm getting my new frame Friday, and am gonna do some weight weenie stuff. I can't afford stans ti, so I'm gonna use some alloy bolts on places like brake caliper mounts, lever clamps and maybe bars and stem if they are strong enough. where is safe to use them and where not? are they safe to use in axles? what do you lot use and where? Bold is no no. Stem cap bolt, levers and cranks are the only place where they are usable I´m affraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Yup, do not use them anywhere where actual clamping force is needed. I've run them on the top cap, cranks and lever bolts with no problems. But stay the hell away from the stem bolts, 4-bolt mounts, wheel bolts etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) http://oscommerce.tibolts.co.uk/index.php?cPath=26_24 http://oscommerce.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=26_31&products_id=211 get these mate Edited February 12, 2013 by dezmtber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecwray Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 A use alloy bolts on me stem and brakes ect have done for a long time never had any problems have seen other people use them and snap all the time so if you decide too use them take care with them and should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 if you have a stem like the try-all style with the split clamp your ok to use alloy bolts there but i wouldnt go full alloy on the steerer clamp stuff like brake lever clamps are fine i would bother on the wheels or the disc just make sure you use grease other wise they will pic up and get stuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I've used alu as front wheel bolts before and they have snapped. They did last about 6 months though, with a 200mm disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm on a mod, will be using snail cams in my new frame, with saint disk brakes. was gonna use them on the brake caliper a and brackets, but think I'll stick to steel. might have to buy 2 ti bolts a week . cheers for the replies anyway. I reckon by upgrading to the echo frame anyway I'm gonna save at least a kilo, as my bb weighs a ton and I'm running a maxxis rear tyre with a downhill tube. it's getting changed to a try all stiky lite and a normal tube. my current frame is an 09 onza blade with an Fsa platinum pro dh bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.Baxter Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 They scare the s**t out of me :/ i had some on a front wheel and didn't realise they were ally, when i had the wheel off and retightened them they snapped and they were barely tight at all. I would be very careful where you use them. Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Are you getting a newer echo frame Dan? Thought they used that integrated tensioner system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkdougie Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I once had a alloy wheel bolt when I first stared, snapped after a pedal kick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 no mate, can't afford the new one, the 2011 is the same geo just uses snail cams instead of the new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 The 2011 is integrated too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Was thinking that? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'd never use them anywhere, far too weak for my liking. I used mainly stainless ones throughout my last build, apart from the rear Pro 2 bolts and crank bolts which were titanium. (Possibly the front hub bolts as well).If I were to ever build again, I'd use all stainless ones for M6 and below, and titanium above that. Not a fan of titanium bolts in aluminium threads... They seemed to corrode together, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Nah it's this one, deffo uses snail cams because I phoned Adam up and asked him http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/20_inch_frames/echo_lite_2011_with_bb/c36p11474.html Should be quite good, loads better geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Oh yeah! can see the cam bolt on the 2nd pic. Sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Bit of topic but does anyone know where you can purchase Ti bolts from? As I have found bolts from bike shops have a huge mark up compared to places like screwfix ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 There are loads on ebay, but don't seem much cheaper than tarty to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customrider-Rhys Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 you can however get a stem set on ebay, 4 for the bar clamp, 2 for the steerer tube clamp and one for the top cap all the right lengths for around 11.99 posted, works out cheaper, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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