monkeyseemonkeydo Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 So you don't believe in gravity? inertia? relativity? electricity? aerodynamics? thermodynamics? I'm pretty sure anyone who's been on a plane will be fairly convinced that those things work, and aren't about to be disproved. Pah! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I actually find all this offensive. You've been sprouting a load of complete utter bullshit about conspiracy theories and how weed is a big cover up and its healthy and all this shit, and thats fine. No problem with a retard on a forum entertaining people with ridiculous fantasy internet myths. But actually trying to say to people who have (or may have in the future) a serious life threatening illness, that they should ignore all medical research and trials to date and ignore their best chances for a cure put forward by EVERY doctor and specialist they see is just plain offensive. Several of my family and friends have died of cancer, some after long difficult struggles - its hideous, and Im not having a f**kwit like you come on here and talk bullshit about something as serious as this. Im not saying there are no health benefits to it and maybe it can be used to help some cancer but until it is properly researched and tested scientifically, and become a recognised positive treatment - You can f**k off. NEVER EVER SAID THAT!Pretty sure heroin's illegal, and yet you'll find plenty of opiate based drugs in hospitals, in fact you'll even find them in a lot of ambulances and chemists, they're really quite common. Being related to an illegal drug doesn't stop a substance being used for genuine medical reasons, it just makes you need a prescription to buy it. That's basically the whole idea of a prescription, it's saying you can buy shit it'd normally be illegal to. He did. As others have said, I've got no problem with the idea of cannabis extracts being used medically, I've got a problem with people spouting medical advice that goes against commonly excepted treatments, after assuming their few minutes research on the internet trumps thousands of people with medical degrees and many years experience. I'm all for trying it alongside conventional treatment, but instead of it, hell no. Where ? ive said you have a better chance to overcome the illness.Never said dont go with chemo at all...you do however have a better chance of beating the ilness....with oil rather than chemo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 You said basically that... Wo wo wo If you read back in other pages.i state that using cannabis alone you have a better chance of full recovery than chemo therapy......cemo does work -some times but the chance of the diseases comming back are way way way higher The entire thread is you droning on that weed is better than any other traditional treatment and you're best to use it alone rather than in conjunction with any standard treatment. Give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I wont bother here anymore.........some people have learned a thing or two im pleased about that so its not a total loss remember its pure cannabis oil...not hemp that works! im honestly out to change the world (dont care what you think about that to be honest)....not just with things like this.but in being a loving kind selfless human being- who only wants better things for his fellow humans- some of you are gonna hate- some of you are going to take notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) You are a headcase, I hope you never get cancer because you'll be f**ked. Edited February 17, 2013 by Jolfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsRob Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 As a medical person, I must compliment the weed advocates on the sheer amount of bad/lost in translation/biased science I have seen. To all the 'drug companies just want to make money' arguments, maybe in america. But here the state pays for all medical care, so our system is set up to save cash, not spend it. If we had decent evidence that a herb (not necessarily cannabis) worked comparably/better than its drug equivalent we'd probably prescribe it. However most drugs are dirt cheap, and if you've ever bought herbal pills you'll see that they aren't. To the 'this is scientifically proven yet no one does a thing' themed arguments. With bad science it's possible to draw a wide range of erroneous conclusions, not all scientific studies are created equally, many are deliberately biased. If the medical community is ignoring a study showing weed to be the next wonder drug its probably because its bogus. Finally, I am in favor of legalizing drugs that are 'safe'. Anything less harmful that alcohol should in my opinion be legalized and regulated, unfortunately legalizing drugs is not a vote winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) It's mad how so many people don't spot the difference between scientific evidence and Edited February 18, 2013 by casualjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 It's mad how so many people don't spot the difference between scientific evidence and Not sure which side of the debate you're supporting there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 ''You are all wrong.'' - The space in the mirror. This helps cure cancer ''Cannabis is a naturally occuring plant with medicinal properties'' - My nan. ''Chemotherapy can kill the bodies natural defense system and is really quite a serious desicion to take'' - The chemo machine. '' You should do plenty of research into things that impact upon your life. Especially your body and it's functioning'' - This bit of paper i found on a train going to leeds. '' Trials- riders are generally not equipped with phd's in medicine '' - MBUK 2003 '' Weed prices are going up, so pick up big amounts between friends to save £££s '' - The economistic enthusiast 2007 '' Know your sh*t '' - My mates nan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Ott is awesome, especially Mir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 i heard if you inject too much canibis your brain can fall off.... One woman threw up her own pelvis bone...it's a f**king disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 But same principle, few babies die from (what now seems like) trivial stuff, they may have had cancer too in the olden days, who knows, but that's not what killed them, and therefore lower statistics. A sword to the head is an external factor but people don't die from that these days, doesn't mean the people who died in battle didn't have cancer, same principle as above. Fewer people died of cancer because more of the potential cancer victims died of something else instead, regardless of age! Misdiagnosed cause of death? It's not that more or less people died of any disease, more that they didn't have the technology or skills to accurately diagnose such a disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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