Ash-Kennard Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 recently bought some stan's flow ZTR crest rims (naice) and i dont really know anything about tubeless. do i just need the super tight rim tape and a valve and no sealant because they are tubeless ready? also, been looking for some decent tyres. got my heart set on maxxis, after using mountain kings and rubber queens, i feel maxxis will be better. I ride this bike around a local trail centre relatively often but find my front tyre slipping out on me a lot. irritating. but yeah tyres need to roll quickly, grip well on corners and cope with mud from time to time. and of course be tubeless. i have also been looking into UST and LUST but can only find high rollers which i found to be pretty slow. and ideally want to try a LUST minion. found one in america, but no luck in the UK any ideas? cheers, ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You can use maxxis exo tyres with some Stans sealant, I have setup loads of xc/am bikes riding in the peaks with exo ardent 2.25 rear and highroller 2, 2.4 front. If the high roller drags too much for you then a minion exo not be better for you on the front I Soo look tmz if there are lust versions of these avalableYou will be better of running the sealant thou to seal thorn punctures that lust tire will still get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 thats interesting, so the sealant works like slime in a tube then? stops punctures etc? still dont know what to do tyre wise though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 But you still need to carry a tube and pump in case of punctures. All seems a bit pointless to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 ust and lust options here for you minion 2.5 ust http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=26814&categoryID=8262 ardent 2.25 lust http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=26827&categoryID=8262 the point of tubeless for xc is less rubber so it uses less energy to deform the tyre as it rotates. and because the tyre deforms easily it also grips better. and rolls more eficiently, it probbably is hardly any difference. to me its less punctres less pinches, lighter than just the standard tube (if you use exo tyres not ustits lighter) if you use ust with sealant you wont get any punctures or failures. unless you rise through a bottle bank or knife factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ash clearly states he wants a fast rolling tyre to use around trail centres so why are posting links to 2.5" DH Tyres? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 He said his front doesn't grip as well the rear makes the big difference when it coms to rolling. If he want super fast rolling then run front and rear ardents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 i have never heard of ardents being any good. anyone used them before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Specialized or Bontrager tyres. Both are tubeless ready. Ive been running a Specialized The Captain rear and Ground Control front combo for a few seasons now, as an XC/trail tyre. Sweet at trail centres too. For more grip then swap the Ground Control to the rear, and strap a Specialized Purgatory to the front. Win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I have not used the Specialized tyres but have heard lots of good things about them and the tread pattern does look great, apparently they are made in the same factory as Maxxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Specialized or Bontrager tyres. Both are tubeless ready. Ive been running a Specialized The Captain rear and Ground Control front combo for a few seasons now, as an XC/trail tyre. Sweet at trail centres too. For more grip then swap the Ground Control to the rear, and strap a Specialized Purgatory to the front. Win! hmm i hadnt even considered them, they do look pretty nice. defo one to consider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Plus an old 2.0 Ground Control makes one of the lightest and grippy stock front tyre choices around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Where's the cheapest place to find Specialized tyres? I have Rubber queen 2.2s but they are too tall for my frame and fork Shame as I really like them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've found most places to be roughly the same. Unfortunately your looking at about £30 per tyre, but these days for a decent tyre that's fairly cheap.. Evans cycles stock them, and are usually competitive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 just to let you into a secret, pretty much all decnt tyres will hold air for months with them rims and a bit of sealant, iv got the stans rims on my orange, i did start off with ust tyres but then tried out a normal runber queen on the front and it held air fine, at the moment and for the last year plus iv had a conti vertical pro traction normal folding tyre on the rear. nice and fast and only about 600 grams they roll alot better than normal tyres with tyres even if they are the same weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 oh thats interesting to hear. i have unfortunately massively run out of money now so i guess ill be rocking the mountain kings for a good while longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 If anyone needs some, I have some Mountain Kings in (I think) 2.3... They're taking up space so you can have them for next to nothing. Not used either, well, maybe for 3 miles to get the bike home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 just to let you into a secret, pretty much all decnt tyres will hold air for months with them rims and a bit of sealant, iv got the stans rims on my orange, i did start off with ust tyres but then tried out a normal runber queen on the front and it held air fine, at the moment and for the last year plus iv had a conti vertical pro traction normal folding tyre on the rear. nice and fast and only about 600 grams they roll alot better than normal tyres with tyres even if they are the same weight Normal tyres will go tubeless but the side walls are very thin and will be subject to tears of rocks. Back to my 1st recomendation that was ignored. Maxxis do the exo tyres, lighter cheaper and work on tubeless setups. But have stronger sidewalls for the purpose of Stans tubeless setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 recently bought some stan's flow ZTR crest rims (naice) and i dont really know anything about tubeless. do i just need the super tight rim tape and a valve and no sealant because they are tubeless ready? Rim only I take it? You'll need the stans tubeless rim tape and yes it needs to be pretty tight on there. Definitely run latex (stans stuff is great) and you'll be forever happy. I've found the Continental Barons to be pretty excellent but are expensive if you want the proper UST ones, but i've been running the cheap cheap ones at 17 quid a pop at retail and they've been fine. My folding Rubber Queens had a lot of trouble running true with my Flows so I would either go UST or cheap wired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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