trialkid Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Right guys, if this was 7 year ago i would have been totally up to speed with everything trials. These days i'm a bit out of the game. Up until recently i've been riding an Echo pure 2011 short (1060ish iirc) Perfect for me at 5.10-11 streety feel while still easily pulling big gaps, taps, hooks but being able to manual and bunnyhop high with ease. Unfortunally i've put a big crack through the rear chainstay. I've now got a new pure sl 1085 and i'm really not getting on with it, i can gap and tap easily with it but manualling it is a chore it really doesn't like it! So to shorten this does anyone sell that size frame anymore? Can you still get a short echo? Or does anyone have a good condition one they'd like to swap with my pure sl! Any help would be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinfor Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 If you want a stock then this: http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_frames/crewkerz_freed_26_inch/c14p12025.html is close with 1055. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 You could always get a custom frame made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialkid Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 true but aren't they all steel? i'm suprised no one really does that style of frame anymore. I may look into a JAF bike mind or getting them to repair my old frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzyyyy Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 second hand? I bought an ashton justice one here a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 If you want a stock then this: http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_frames/crewkerz_freed_26_inch/c14p12025.html is close with 1055.Unfortunately at 40mm bb rise, that's going to be pretty far off what Niall's after.Aside from going custom, there's nothing I know of still produced that fits that great all-round geo. The Inspired's are slightly too short for me..If you can get hold of an old Phase (M.A.D) frame, they're super enjoyable to ride, and just the type of geo you're after. They're not the strongest of frames, but can handle some abuse (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=196985953419&set=t.721476198&type=3&theater), and will be cheap enough to not worry too much about damaging them..I'm currently riding an original 2004 Echo Pure, donated by Si Sagar after my Phase got nicked a while back, which is pretty awesome to ride, although I do prefer the Phases. Short of that, get Josh to make you something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 There's a phase frame in the for sale section for £15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialkid Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Unfortunately at 40mm bb rise, that's going to be pretty far off what Niall's after. Aside from going custom, there's nothing I know of still produced that fits that great all-round geo. The Inspired's are slightly too short for me.. If you can get hold of an old Phase (M.A.D) frame, they're super enjoyable to ride, and just the type of geo you're after. They're not the strongest of frames, but can handle some abuse (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=196985953419&set=t.721476198&type=3&theater), and will be cheap enough to not worry too much about damaging them.. I'm currently riding an original 2004 Echo Pure, donated by Si Sagar after my Phase got nicked a while back, which is pretty awesome to ride, although I do prefer the Phases. Short of that, get Josh to make you something! Glad some one gets me! The Phase does look like a bang on geo actually! So may give one a go, only thing is i do tend to break frames fairly quickly and don't want to be building and re building all the time as i'm only just getting back to riding regularly it may put me off getting old and lazy now! MMMM 2004 pure, I would love another one of those! Also the Echo bounce I had was a joy to ride! Did crack in about 3 months though! I don't get why companies aren't making this style/size anymore? Could do pretty much anything on them at that size and were much more fun than these 1090 monsters which stupid BB rise! Maybe i'm just too old skool. These JAF bikes, i haven't checked properly but what kind of price are you looking at a general custom build? I guess i could send them my echo and say copy this please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 These JAF bikes, i haven't checked properly but what kind of price are you looking at a general custom build? I guess i could send them my echo and say copy this please? It highly depends what you want, but I believe you would expect to pay around 250 to 350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Magellan Tucana pro 26 2007 they are 1066 if I saw well, but im not sure about that, and it is around 50£ plus postage (from hungary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialkid Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hmm there are quite a few Ashton justice frames knocking about. Never really tried one out anyone have an honest opinion on them? iirc they are 1055wb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Measuring frames by the wheelbase doesn't make much sense any more. For example, a lot of long-ish frames measured with the new Urban fork will come out at 1055-1065. Such a frame would not match what you're looking for. Just wanted to make a point, it's not directly aimed at you. The 2009/2011 Pure short equivalent will be hard to come by now, you should be looking at a low BB rise for starters. That frame had around 15-25 IIRC. The Ashton is not going to be a direct alternative but a very good one though. It's around 1045 with some forks, very steep head angle so the reach is quite long. This long reach is the main difference you will feel between that and the Echo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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