Muel Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Only in trials would people give a flying f**k about the ANGLE of someone else's handlebars. This is why even the roadies think trials riders are gay, and why I quit. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Nah, BMXers go on about it (a bit) too, but that doesn't make it any less pointless. Also shouldn't be a reason to quit. I don't associate with much to do with trials these days but I enjoy going out on my little bike and I wouldn't stop that even those most around are ditching jeans for lycra and bobbing about on the back wheel all day. I think the majority of riders should read the Chris Akrigg interview in the current Privateer - i'm with him on his view of current day trials. If you're going to roll your bars to extremes then I think 'more fool you'. Sure every now and again people get caught up in trends but trials is becoming more and more specialist getting it down to such a specific sort of riding (in a competition sense) that I don't know why anyone would want to do it. The minute you can't ride a bike in a conventional sense and struggle to lift the front wheel without the aid of a pedal stroke then you're beyond help. People have joked about it being pogo stick riding but we're pretty much at that point...why use a 'bike' at all? Edited January 17, 2013 by Matthew62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think the majority of riders should read the Chris Akrigg interview in the current Privateer - i'm with him on his view of current day trials. Help us out and post a scan? Sounds like it'd be a good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's a bloomin' long-un but i'll give it a scan when home tonight. It'll no doubt upset most people on here and there was even a bit of light danny-bashing but on the whole I get where he's coming from. There was one term he used I'd been thinking of for a long time and something I like to try and remember when riding: "Surfing on a bike". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Been meaning to pick that issue up next time I'm out shopping. Is the Hans Rey feature any good as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think you forget that some riders don't want to use their bike for anything other than trials. I almost never ride street, I pretty much exclusivly ride natural as thats what I enjoy riding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 ive always run my bars slightly more forward than most. i undo the stem bolts, put 2 fingers under the ends of the grips, let the bars fall into the most upright position, then do it up. been doing that for years. the trick it to get it so you can still pull the bike up onto the back wheel. i do advice people try it before knocking it, go too far forwards, then too far back. find what is comfy for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Only in trials would people give a flying f**k about the ANGLE of someone else's handlebars. This is why even the roadies think trials riders are gay, and why I quit. Every sport is petty now and then. I bet football forums discuss sock length from time to time. The reason you quit is pretty daft, and hanging out with trials riders on a trials forum board doesn't do you any favours either. Come back to riding bikes, on a normal street mountain bike, then you can have fun, point and laugh at the rolled forward bar guys. While this rolled forward bar stuff can help, it looks different and therefore weird. Bmx has had it's times with very questionable ideas, with them all originally having a benefit behind them. I'll still continue to laugh at every rolled bar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's a bloomin' long-un but i'll give it a scan when home tonight. Nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Been meaning to pick that issue up next time I'm out shopping. Is the Hans Rey feature any good as well? Haven't read that yet but i'd imagine so. There's some sweet typography in there too that I may be a bit biased towards, but that's another subject all together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Every sport is petty now and then. I bet football forums discuss sock length from time to time. The reason you quit is pretty daft, and hanging out with trials riders on a trials forum board doesn't do you any favours either. Come back to riding bikes, on a normal street mountain bike, then you can have fun, point and laugh at the rolled forward bar guys. While this rolled forward bar stuff can help, it looks different and therefore weird. Bmx has had it's times with very questionable ideas, with them all originally having a benefit behind them. I'll still continue to laugh at every rolled bar though. When I rode the only people I ever saw were comp riders who did enjoy bar angles a bit too much. It just killed my passion for the sport, so even though I live in Sheffield now with loads of other riders I've got no desire to get back into it. There were a few riders I saw regularly who weren't that fussed by such things and just got on with it, but I didn't get to see them often enough. Nah, BMXers go on about it (a bit) too, but that doesn't make it any less pointless. Also shouldn't be a reason to quit. I don't associate with much to do with trials these days but I enjoy going out on my little bike and I wouldn't stop that even those most around are ditching jeans for lycra and bobbing about on the back wheel all day. I think the majority of riders should read the Chris Akrigg interview in the current Privateer - i'm with him on his view of current day trials. If you're going to roll your bars to extremes then I think 'more fool you'. Sure every now and again people get caught up in trends but trials is becoming more and more specialist getting it down to such a specific sort of riding (in a competition sense) that I don't know why anyone would want to do it. The minute you can't ride a bike in a conventional sense and struggle to lift the front wheel without the aid of a pedal stroke then you're beyond help. People have joked about it being pogo stick riding but we're pretty much at that point...why use a 'bike' at all? I think rolling your bars to that angle is silly really, but I understand that I'm not a world level rider, so I just accept/ignore it. It's the constant threads and comments about it that remind me of going on rides with people who spoke about that sort of stuff at length, instead of riding their bikes... I didn't quit because of anything in particular, just didn't like where the sport was going. It just bored me too much. Since then the whole "street" movement has gone much bigger with the aid of Danny Mac and Inspired making bikes with seats and OBM making pretty sick videos of the kind of riding I wanted to be doing then, but at the time there weren't any riders with that mindset nearby. Meh, got other things to get on with now. Edited January 17, 2013 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I see where you're coming from I've just never personally based my riding on those around me. If there was no one to ride with i'd still ride, and i'd ride exactly how I wanted. I like riding with people and I like riding on my own. I'll often try a bit harder when riding with others but the style itself remains the same. Getting my current bike was the best thing I ever decided to do and that's impacted on my riding the most (as opposed to those I rode with before and after my relatively recent move across the country). I had a 'street' bike before my current one but in retrospect it was entirely wrong for the sort of riding I wanted to do and held me back in a number of ways. There's things now which are much much harder to do (i.e. standard trials) but I never find myself doing it so on the whole I'm much happier. My point is if you like riding a certain way like you mentioned then you should/could crack on regardless. Especially in our digital age there's enough inspiration out there to help motivate you and give you stuff to aim for even if the riders in the video are ones you'll never likely meet. The reverse of this stupid bar angle trend can be seen with street riders though. Some guys go for an ultra sweep backwards which I personally think is equally shit. Whilst my bike is set-up as an out and out street bike with short/high stem, high bars and tiny wheelbase I don't think having your bars swept back a lot is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I go for the standard BMX technique, get the vertical part of the bars in line with the headtube. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 when you have bars tilted so much forward your wrists are at a horrible angle and it feels like there twisting! how can you ride like that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 when you have bars tilted so much forward your wrists are at a horrible angle and it feels like there twisting! how can you ride like that?? It is hard and pretty much against biomechanics, but you can get used to it after some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 when you have bars tilted so much forward your wrists are at a horrible angle and it feels like there twisting! how can you ride like that?? Pffft, you can't talk. No-one knows it but you started that fashion back in 2009 or something with your damn flat bars that pointed forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Pffft, you can't talk. No-one knows it but you started that fashion back in 2009 or something with your damn flat bars that pointed forwards. they wernt that bad look i found some pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Fook that looks painful 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Fook that looks painful its funny how people back then hated forward tilting bars... but now pro's do it, it becomes ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I still don´t like extreme bar position but two bents instead of one makes it a bit more wrist friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 i do advice people try it before knocking it, go too far forwards, then too far back. find what is comfy for you That there signals the end of this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 i cant get on with this set up at all, am i doing something wrong? feel like a need a new back 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleys sugden Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 each to there own, everyone likes different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 This is probably the right place to ask ( i also could be getting confused and being a total knob? -as per usual) if you swap your bars round so you have not backsweep but froward sweep would that hurt less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 This is probably the right place to ask ( i also could be getting confused and being a total knob? -as per usual) if you swap your bars round so you have not backsweep but froward sweep would that hurt less? It's almost at that point, and I'm sure it'd be better for your wrists that way too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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