Ali C Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh yeah, you could also run larger sprockets too, you're much less likely to snap a chain with 22-18 than you are with 18-15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) So you're telling me big comp riders don't put any power into their moves? Have you seen majority of comp riders today? They have no meat on them!!!! Probz weigh about 10 stone n'all Edited January 14, 2013 by Andeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Swivell on this © To Kidney and Ali I weigh 14.9 stone come on give us big boys a break. Were not all light as feathers and wear skinny jeans or even dress like one direction for a ride. I used to weight 220 and only z610hx chain I snapped was over 6months old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Have you seen majority of comp riders today? They have no meat on them!!!! Probz weigh about 10 stone n'all Just because there's no meat on 'em doesn't mean that they put no power into it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Stop saying people who aren't fat don't break chains, that's not the reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 True but then Bigman never had a problem with snapping chains? He had his technique dialled and was nice and smooth and could outgap 95% of people on this forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkdougie Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 How will it break my SL? It's not going to put anymore strain on it is it? It wont sit in the teeth correctly therefore wont get a consistent tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 It wont sit in the teeth correctly therefore wont get a consistent tension. So long as its the right pitch it will. Bancrofts massive, and he's been running the same chain for around a year (z610hx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris H Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Danny, leave the lad alone. Andy can post shit but you respond, making you just as bad! Buy a chain and shut up dragging brands names down and causing shit arguments andy! Kidney, stop over think and ride man. Weld hear weld there Jesus Christ man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Just trying to help out a little hahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosay57 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Iv'e recently put on a kmx z610hx onto my new mod build and its been nothing but trouble. iv'e only ridden the bike round to get used to it, not actually using it for proper trials use and its constantly stretching and i'm considering replacing it already. i know its definatly the chain stretching rarther than the wheel slipping forward in the dropouts cos the brakes still work perfect. i've only used it for 1 hour riding time so far aswell, surely this isnt right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Must be something wrong. Everyone uses them. They stretch a bit but not as much as you are making out. Certainly not on the first hours ride anyways. Can you let us know your setup or post a picture? Edited January 15, 2013 by CalopS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosay57 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) mine has beden stretching loads to be honest. i'm using an admant a3 frame, kmc chain, trialtech front screw on sprocket and using an adamant rear hub. no idea if they have anything to do with it but i'm blaming it on the chain Edited January 15, 2013 by hosay57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 True but then Bigman never had a problem with snapping chains? He had his technique dialled and was nice and smooth and could outgap 95% of people on this forum. After the rider weight thing had been mentioned I was wondering how long it would be until somebody mentioned me!! Smoothness of the power delivery through the cranks - freewheel - chain is a massively important thing, I know you probably wouldn't have made such an issue of it if it was sombody other than Ali that mentioned it, but it is seriously worth looking into it, ensure your at the engagement point of the freewheel and then push, don't just rely on the fact that all these new 108engagement freewheels will have an engagement soon, preloading the drivetrain is quite important! I ran KMC Z610hx chains for years and I don't actually remember snapping any, I would generaly replace it after 5 - 6 months as a precaution. I weighed between 19 - 20 stone pretty much throughout my riding time, I was gapping 8ft + and never had any worries regarding my drivetrain! I am running a Z610hx on my inspired now, and don't plan on changing it out, I would even run this chain if I decided to try brakeless, which as we know puts serious strain on chains and freewheels etc! Adam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) I am running a Z610hx on my inspired now, I would even run this chain if I decided to try brakeless, which as we know puts serious strain on chains and freewheels etc! Adam On this note, tarty's chain page says that flipp runs a 510HX. If that means owt anyway (showing its strength i mean.) Just buy a tank, two of my friends run them and three of the bmx lot at the local park were converted the second they looked at one in the flesh. Aside from the stiff links big chains naturally get (KHE collapse's did the same and I had four of them, a firm TF favorite too) the tank should be/will be/is the last word in chains Edited January 15, 2013 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamWood! Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Why was the KHE collapse discontinued anyway? It was an amazing chain if you kept it lubricated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 To all intents and purposes the Z610 HX and Z510 HX are the same chain, so you don't really need to differentiate between them in a strength sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Indeed - the same side plates (and thus same strength in tension), just different length rollers and pins. However, if you are a spaz at joining chains, the pins stick through the links on the 510 a bit more I think, so that could be beneficial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Why was the KHE collapse discontinued anyway? It was an amazing chain if you kept it lubricated. BMXers have told me that it (read this bit in your best moany, whiny, high pitched, taking the piss, girl voice) broke their pathetic and sh*t excuse for 'drivers', because it stayed together where a BMX standard, godawful chain (usually a half link jobby) would snap, taking the brunt, They were also blamed for breaking what they call a sprocket. Once a whinge like that got hold, I believe sales went south and us lot were ignored/didn't exist. if you are a spaz at joining chains Nice. proper PC that. eeee Edited January 15, 2013 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Gone and bought a Gusset tank after reading many good reviews on it. £7.99 posted many thanks winstanleys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Just to weigh in a little late. Im quite a large rider. Fully clothed im the best part of 15 stone and a similar build to you andee. Not to get at you but im confident my tgs numbers match or beat your own. Im running a kool chain. I replace it every 12 weeks. Or before a significant ride somewhere new. I also bought a high end chain tool. Which os probably the most significant factor in my lack of chain snaps... drop proper money on a hefty chain tool like a fat spanner or park tool. Ideally one with an adjustable end... and you'll avoid a lot of problems. The tank chain is tough. But its stiff and makes your whole drive train feel sluggish. .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) he'll need a fat spanner tool to fit that tank anyway... The mofo of chain tools to the mofo of chains... apt. Edited January 15, 2013 by CC12345678910 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) I got one of these at christmas. With everything i need. Still aint used it yet lol Meh If not i always have access to a better chain tool. This one in this should do the job. Edited January 15, 2013 by Andeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 BMXers have told me that it (read this bit in your best moany, whiny, high pitched, taking the piss, girl voice) broke their pathetic and sh*t excuse for 'drivers', because it stayed together where a BMX standard, godawful chain (usually a half link jobby) would snap, taking the brunt, They were also blamed for breaking what they call a sprocket. Once a whinge like that got hold, I believe sales went south and us lot were ignored/didn't exist. Nice. proper PC that. eeee Probably had something to do with them being notorious for having rollers snap and stiff links developing. All the Collapses I had weren't great quality. Because of those stiff links/rollers shitting the bed I'd imagine on a 9t driver they'd probably run pretty badly too, so it's not massively surprising that a BMX company that almost exclusively uses 9t drivers might opt to avoid using it. Most BMXers use Z510HX chains, and most riders I've met haven't really had much of a problem with chains breaking apart from just ragging them apart because of them hanging up mid-grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Forget you are a teeny-wheeler as well z510s are about £12 too much for the park rats in my town. If it can't be cobbled together outta 20 different chain pieces, in wont land on their bike. You should see the general state of rest of the bike too. Sight for sore eyes that is... My opinion of BMX has probably been tainted because a few locally are not my favorite people of this earth. You and your mates mark must be the upmarket ones. Edited January 16, 2013 by CC12345678910 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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