Blake Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 What year and model we talking about? I thought they were all the same? 05 06 07 frames. . .Excuse me if I am wrong. Back in 2005 55bb was considered high... But now it is considered mid/low, and +70 is more of a standard, but +55 is a much better height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I thought they were all the same? 05 06 07 frames. . .Excuse me if I am wrong. But now it is considered mid/low, and +70 is more of a standard, but +55 is a much better height. They're not all the same. And as jake mentioned, +55 back in 06 was high. I'm not trying to be argumentative here haha. Also, how can you make a statement that 55 is a better height? For what exactly? I personally love a high bb short mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 They're not all the same. And as jake mentioned, +55 back in 06 was high. I'm not trying to be argumentative here haha. Also, how can you make a statement that 55 is a better height? For what exactly? I personally love a high bb short mod. Not trying to be a dick here either, sorry if it seems I am I don't know why I think it's better, it's not hard to do rear wheel moves on any mod, even one with +30, so why compromise the feel of two wheel moves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Not trying to be a dick here either, sorry if it seems I am I don't know why I think it's better, it's not hard to do rear wheel moves on any mod, even one with +30, so why compromise the feel of two wheel moves? No you're not don't worry. Healthy debate never hurt did it I get what you mean. At one point I had a limey, an ice and as a spare a 2003 echo team with a modern spec. The low bb on that was so fun for bunny hops and general messing about, but that was about as far as it could stretch. But I would always turn to the limey or ice for a decent days riding, and to keep up with my ability. I suppose it all depends on what you enjoy doing, if manuals and smaller moves are your thing, a low bb mod is the way to go. Anyway, I'll shut up now and get back on topic. I love this frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Forks look interesting, they look straighter than Inspired. Stem looks pointless, no street trials rider will use a stem that short, and dirt jumpers/ park riders are never gonna use Echo parts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Some interesting stuff from Deng. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ohhhhh sod all this high bb crap! bring back +55 /+65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Ohhhhh sod all this high bb crap! bring back +55 /+65 nah bruv, bring back the days of +40-45, they have all disappeared from the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 nah bruv, bring back the days of +40-45, they have all disappeared from the market Stock or mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 clearly stock, i have no care for mods 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 clearly stock, i have no care for mods +55 mods +40 stocks Win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 +55 mods +40 stocks Win. this guys alllllllllllllllright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think most trials companies are made with target audiences in mind, competition riders are a HUGE audience. They probably ride more in a week than a street rider does in a month... They also from what I've seen, tend to buy brand new parts more than anyone else. Which means they have the bigger call in terms of geometry, they want higher bb, GU gives them higher bb, profit. If you want a 2013 frame with a 2004 geo then you have 2 choices, become a very good and well known rider, like CLS for example and work with a deng to get a geo you like. Second choice is buy a frame from Marino. If you're still going to moan about high bb, don't. It's not going to get you anywhere. This was aimed at DrStix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Seen most of this on faceyb - http://www.facebook.com/biketrialdreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 +55 mods +40 stocks Win. You ever ride natural? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 i like the idea of splined hubs, but it looks like deng is using his own spline pattern in those pics. anyone else get the feeling he's going to alienate his customers by forcing them to buy his sprokets too? a bit like he has with the intergrated c/r on his forks. i know he owns a sizeable portion of the trials market with his various brands, but it still seems a bit greedy to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 If it means being able to remove the sprocket easier I think I'll get over having to use a deng sprocket when I probably would have anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 What´s new about those hubs?Deng has been using his own spline pattern for like 5years? And those pictured hubs are just old SL hubs,nothing new... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Seen most of this on faceyb - http://www.facebook.com/biketrialdreams Those hubs are the '09 SL hubs. Pretty hard to find these days since he stopped making them a while back. Lately there's only been the TR screw-on hubs but seems for 2013 there's at least one TR hub that goes back to using splined cog: 2013 SL cranks: 160, 170, 175mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Now they certainly have some interesting items in stock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I don't have the balls to run those Echo cranks at all! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Andrei has been running a set for around 5months now. I had a good look over them again on Sunday while a bunch of us were at his warehouse and they are still holding strong - no signs of stress yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 im sure the same conversation started about the older SL cranks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Now I'm definitely getting a pair of those cranks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 There MUST be a weight limit for those cranks, I thought the older ones were bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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