williams Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Hey guys merry christmas everybody! So I got a new frame yesterday (yes we celebrate christmas on the 24th) and I wan't to measure the Wheelbase. I've seen the guide on tartybikes and when I do the same the difference between the WB on tarty and mine, is BIG! The wheelbase differ 3 cm. WIth the same fork... You just measure from the rear dropout to the front one? That's correct right? If so the wheelbase is not correct on tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Centre of axle to centre of axle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Wheels straight & inline? Measure between the centres of the axles (qr skewers/bolts). Edited December 25, 2012 by LEON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Are you measuring with the same fork as tarty do? The offset of forks could be different and change the measure of WBOops! Sorry, I didn't read that you do with the same fork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Are you measuring with the same fork as tarty do? The offset of forks could be different and change the measure of WB Hey guys merry christmas everybody! So I got a new frame yesterday (yes we celebrate christmas on the 24th) and I wan't to measure the Wheelbase. I've seen the guide on tartybikes and when I do the same the difference between the WB on tarty and mine, is BIG! The wheelbase differ 3 cm. WIth the same fork... You just measure from the rear dropout to the front one? That's correct right? If so the wheelbase is not correct on tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) EDIT: beaten to it haha Edited December 25, 2012 by CalopS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Wheels straight & inline? Measure between the centres of the axles (qr skewers/bolts). No I thought you measured with the wheels of? but yes the fork is straight forward. And yeah that's how i measured mine Are you measuring with the same fork as tarty do? The offset of forks could be different and change the measure of WB Yes the same Echo urban fork:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Guys, you are faster than I'm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 If the wheels are off where are you measuring on the rear dropouts?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 No I thought you measured with the wheels off? That's not really going to give a proper measurement if your horizontal dropout is 6 cm long or something even if you guess where your wheel is going to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) It's quite a simple task... Taking the wheels off is pointless. Edited December 25, 2012 by LEON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="dann2707" data-cid="2474892" data-time="1356440282"><p> If the wheels are off where are you measuring on the rear dropouts?!</p></blockquote> From the rear of the dropouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) No!! Your wheelbase is measured from where your wheel is, if your wheel is out how are you gonna know where it is? Centre (middle / half way through) each axle (most central part of the wheel) Your bike IS built up with a headset right? Edited December 25, 2012 by LEON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 No!! Your wheelbase is measured from where your wheel is, if your wheel is out how are you gonna know where it is? Centre (middle / half way through) each axle (most central part of the wheel) Your bike IS built up with a headset right? Ah okej give me 10 seconds the measure it up now with the wheels on. Since the geo was soo off, I measured it from the end of the dropout... Yes it is. Update sort of. Even shorter with the wheels on... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 If you have horizontal dropouts Tarty would have listed the wb from a neutral position, pretty central, yours could be up to about 15mm either way depending on your gearing/chain length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Also depends on if your chain has stretched loads, using a split link blah blah etc x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Also depends on if your chain has stretched loads, using a split link blah blah etc x Yes I know, it's brand new. Either way, that's why I measured it from the end of the dropout from the start, to know the longest wheelbase "possible" if that makes sence? Edited December 25, 2012 by williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 No what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 No, It doesn't make senSe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Insted of measuring from point A on the picture, where the wheel would be in the dropout. I measured it from point B, to have the longest WB possible, since the WB was sooooo of from the one on tarty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamWood! Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The travel you get inside a drop out is going to make no difference to how your bike rides. Just build it up and ride the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Wheelbase is such an unimportant measurement. It's only really used in the same way penis measurement is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The travel you get inside a drop out is going to make no difference to how your bike rides. Just build it up and ride the thing. Actually it will, if there's a 20mm area of adjustment, that's the difference in the chainstays between a GU Typhoon and an Orange Zero. Have the back end as short as you can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Sooo this is a bit weird, took a different tape measurer and the geo was correct.. Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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