315r Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hello! just a question, What do you think about it? http://www.k-124store.com/en/26/1150-try-all-jante-26-avant-sky.html Weigh? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 That's the old one, it was 568g. New model is the K2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Aha! Thanks Adam! But is strong? Hold a grind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 568? Same as k2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 It's the same as the V!Z rim that everybody said was crap (in both cases)... yet we got good feedback on the Try-All ones. The power of branding! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I had two of these, and they are crap (for grind). And I weighed them at 600 and 603g (+-2g). Get the new K2 : lighter, hold grind better and better looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Thanks all for your answers! Final question, what about old "hole" or identical rockman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 the older sky rim was shit for holding a grind, no way was it as bad as viz, as i had both... but it was light and pretty strong the new k2 is ment to be good for holding a grind, but no eyelets and the spokes can pull out. but again very light 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Then, which rim is the most reliable nowadays? Finally I'll go for k2 ones. I love it in the photo of rockman xl of James Hyland. Edited December 21, 2012 by 315r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Then, which rim is the most reliable nowadays? the rockma/try all single wall hole style rim, best all round rim but not the lightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 the rockma/try all single wall hole style rim, best all round rim but not the lightest AHA!! I thought that you was talking about old "hole" style rim when you said that this didn't hold a grind!!! Then the options are K2 or "hole" try-all / rockman. Perfect!! Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 AHA!! I thought that you was talking about old "hole" style rim when you said that this didn't hold a grind!!! Then the options are K2 or "hole" try-all / rockman. Perfect!! Thanks!! sorry i mean this one is more reliable http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/rockman_single_wall_rear_26_inch/c25p11274.htmlAHA!! I thought that you was talking about old "hole" style rim when you said that this didn't hold a grind!!! Then the options are K2 or "hole" try-all / rockman. Perfect!! Thanks!! just incase im mixing them up, the sky 2 rim i think its called has the big holes and eyelets but angled sidewalls, this is shit because it wont hold a grind the even older one is the best one for all round http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/rockman_single_wall_rear_26_inch/c25p11274.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) sorry i mean this one is more reliable http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/rockman_single_wall_rear_26_inch/c25p11274.htmljust incase im mixing them up, the sky 2 rim i think its called has the big holes and eyelets but angled sidewalls, this is shit because it wont hold a grind the even older one is the best one for all round http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/rockman_single_wall_rear_26_inch/c25p11274.html Perfectly understood! 2 options then. Stronger but heavier, rockman single wall. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/rockman_single_wall_rear_26_inch/c25p11274.html Lighter but weaker. K2 try-all. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/tryall_k2_rear_26_inch/c25p11949.html Same price, more or less hold the grind equal... Edited December 22, 2012 by 315r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Perfectly understood! 2 options then. Stronger but heavier, rockman single wall. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/rockman_single_wall_rear_26_inch/c25p11274.html Lighter but weaker. K2 try-all. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_rear_rims/tryall_k2_rear_26_inch/c25p11949.html Same price, more or less hold the grind equal... if you are a fairly smooth rider for the same price get the K2 they are 'said' to hold a grind better than ours, from what riders at the world cups said. maybe you could build the wheel with some washers to stop the spokes pulling through? still be very light best of all then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 if you are a fairly smooth rider for the same price get the K2 they are 'said' to hold a grind better than ours, from what riders at the world cups said. maybe you could build the wheel with some washers to stop the spokes pulling through? still be very light best of all then? Yes! Perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Old Try-all Hole rim (Nowar) hold grinds a bit better than the last Rockman rim (I mean the last made by Rockman). Don't ask me why, but I've had 3 or 4 Try-all Hole rims, and I have had 1 Rockman in October-November 2012 and Try-all were better than the Rockman. Also the sidewall on Rockman are smaller ("more difficult" to adjust the pad), but it's still a good rim K2 actually hold grind very well !! Like the old Try-all Hole I would say. And they are lighter. As you use the 'external' spoke hole, you'll have no problem to put high tension I recommand you K2 rear rim Edited December 22, 2012 by Maxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Old Try-all Hole rim (Nowar) hold grinds a bit better than the last Rockman rim (I mean the last made by Rockman). Don't ask me why, but I've had 3 or 4 Try-all Hole rims, and I have had 1 Rockman in October-November 2012 and Try-all were better than the Rockman. Also the sidewall on Rockman are smaller ("more difficult" to adjust the pad), but it's still a good rim K2 actually hold grind very well !! Like the old Try-all Hole I would say. And they are lighter. As you use the 'external' spoke hole, you'll have no problem to put high tension I recommand you K2 rear rim Yes, I listen that rockman don't hold the grind like try-all, really don't know why because looks the same. Sadly K2 is not available in Spain and if I order it in tarty it cost (20 € / 16,3 pounds) more.. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I think it's worth the extra, postage must cost £8 in Spain so not alot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I think it's worth the extra, postage must cost £8 in Spain so not alot more Cheapest option for Spain is FEDEX economy, 15 pounds. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Old Try-all Hole rim (Nowar) hold grinds a bit better than the last Rockman rim (I mean the last made by Rockman). Don't ask me why, but I've had 3 or 4 Try-all Hole rims, and I have had 1 Rockman in October-November 2012 and Try-all were better than the Rockman. Also the sidewall on Rockman are smaller ("more difficult" to adjust the pad), but it's still a good rim K2 actually hold grind very well !! Like the old Try-all Hole I would say. And they are lighter. As you use the 'external' spoke hole, you'll have no problem to put high tension I recommand you K2 rear rim Exactly my friend, I would have said the same thing about the new Rockman rim. I would add that the K2 rim is actually stronger than the old Try-All Hole No War rear rim, Sky 2 rear rim and Rockman Single Walled rear rim. They are awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="315r" data-cid="2474271" data-time="1356186081"><p> Cheapest option for Spain is FEDEX economy, 15 pounds. :'(</p></blockquote> Sorry mean if you buy from Spain there must be a cost of postage any way ? Unless you collect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) OOpss!! The ERD is bigger in the try-all? I should change the spokes too?? Edited December 25, 2012 by 315r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 The sky rim in your first link is what I'm using with eyelets, no idea it was the same as a VIZ but I used to have that and the sky rim is much better at strength and grind holds in comparison! Not sure in the new k2 rims. Old hole/rockman are heavier than what I've got but holds grind better and a tad stronger build wheel wise. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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