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My dad left the blade out on my Stanley knife and dropped it back in my tool bag, riffling through earlier to find some brackets and I've sliced a slightly bigger than a 5p sized cold cut from my middle finger tip! Bled like mad and stings an insane amount. I found the flap of skin that I've parted with too in my tool bag, that was kinda gross.

I'd planned a good night ride tomorrow too but it's doubtful now, my finger breaks back out into bleeding with the slightest touch :(.

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Having a discussion with mates about this now. Can they REALLY be 100% certain that the co-pilot was at fault this early in the investigation?

I am no conspiracy theorist, but I do think its too soon to be blaming a single individual without all the data that should be available. I think the media are to be blamed for pressuring the company for an answer.

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It's looking pretty likely that he did it, to be fair.

The only thing I don't get is why he did an 8 minute descent, rather than just diving it - surely if your intentions were to commit suicide / kill people / destroy a plane, a high speed dive would be quicker and more effective?

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If you're in a position where you're actually thinking of killing a plane-load of people I guess you might not be thinking too clearly about that? Plus I suppose it might not arouse as much suspicion thus giving you more time?

Having a discussion with mates about this now. Can they REALLY be 100% certain that the co-pilot was at fault this early in the investigation?

I am no conspiracy theorist, but I do think its too soon to be blaming a single individual without all the data that should be available. I think the media are to be blamed for pressuring the company for an answer.

He was the only one in the cockpit, and the inputs on the controls could only have been done by someone aware of what they were doing. I agree that they're all getting pretty hasty about it, but at the same time I reckon they've spent more time analysing it to make sure what they think might have happened has happened. They spent an extra day checking it over before speaking to the press, and even have police stationed outside the guy's house so I'd imagine they're fairly sure that he knew what he was doing.

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It all seemed a bit quick to me too, but it seems a plausible explanation.

In terms of the 8 minute descent bit, I wouldn't be surprised if it was partly to enable him to keep the door closed. From what I've heard about the system, there's a keypad on the outside of the cabin which is used to ask for access. If access is denied, those outside the cabin can override it by inputting a specific code. However, those inside the cabin can also override that override. I'm assuming that descending at more than 4500 feet per minute would override his ability to override the override.

Override.

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Yeah, if you were to initiate a dive there wouldn't be time for them to break into the cabin and correct it, especially the engines were stalled or something.

Surely not allowing access to the cabin for 8 minutes would give them MORE time to stop him?

I mean clearly they didn't, but a 30-60 second dive would be much more likely to end the way this did than an 8 minute descent.

Anyway, it's all irrelevant I guess, it's a terrible event and the guy that did it was a total c*nt - commit suicide if you want, but don't ruin thousands of lives with it. Tragic.

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I doubt you could drop 29,000ft in under a minute even if you wanted to though. It could be he wanted to draw it out a bit in any case - it might give more of a sense of control over the situation which might be a feeling he was lacking elsewhere in life if he wanted to kill himself?

EDIT: "Mr Spohr said Mr Lubitz's training had been interrupted briefly six years ago but was resumed after "the suitability of the candidate was re-established"."

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In terms of the 8 minute descent bit, I wouldn't be surprised if it was partly to enable him to keep the door closed. From what I've heard about the system, there's a keypad on the outside of the cabin which is used to ask for access. If access is denied, those outside the cabin can override it by inputting a specific code. However, those inside the cabin can also override that override. I'm assuming that descending at more than 4500 feet per minute would override his ability to override the override.

Override.

I'd also heard that and also had the same theory about the descent rate. 4500ft/min is probably a 'this is going totally tits up' value, meaning people could get into the cockpit if the pilot(s) were in trouble. If it's less than that the override stays in place and the guy stays in the cockpit by himself... I'll ask my mate next time I see him.

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How the f**k is a thermal jacket hundreds of £'s, but a piece of cardboard can keep a McDonalds apple pie hotter than the surface of the sun for hours?

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Obviously I've just burnt the roof of my mouth on the thing. Still kept eating it though.

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I think that's because the starting temperature of the pie is considerably hotter than the sun so the sleeve doesn't have to do much apart from deceive the end user into thinking it's contents won't be too warm to eat...

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especially the engines were stalled or something.

Anyway, it's all irrelevant I guess, it's a terrible event and the guy that did it was a total c*nt - commit suicide if you want, but don't ruin thousands of lives with it. Tragic.

You can't really stall an aircraft engine. Aircraft stall relates to the wings themselves reaching stall which means the flow separates and lift suddenly reduces.

At least he didn't fly it into a village/town/city/big ass building which could've taken out hundreds or thousands of others.

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How the f**k is a thermal jacket hundreds of £'s, but a piece of cardboard can keep a McDonalds apple pie hotter than the surface of the sun for hours?

Obviously I've just burnt the roof of my mouth on the thing. Still kept eating it though.

Good thing you posted the picture, if you hadn't I wouldn't understand how hot it was :P

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As we all know with Jardo, if he doesn't take a photo of something he can't process what's occurring, hence any post where he expresses an emotion tends to have a photo of him expressing said emotion. It's just how he rolls.

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