Muel Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I suppose my point boils down to the completely unachievable wish that everyone just stopped blaming everyone else for their own stupidity and took some responsibility for opening a car door or walking onto a piece of tarmac inhabited by 1ton+ lumps of metal travelling with velocity.My point boils down to the fact that most people are stupid, whether they're driving cars, pedestrians, 3 year olds or cyclists. I couldn't give a f**k about the reasoning behind them darting out in front of me, I just don't want to have anyone's death/injury on my conscience when I could so easily have just been further away from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) do you actually cycle on roads regularly? 2ft is f**king grim if the car is moving with some pace it can pull you out and generally f**k with your shit. Not any more, because I can afford a car. But back when I did, I used my eyes and ears to be aware of when a car might pass me within 2 feet of me, and anticipate it pulling me out or 'f**king with my shit'. Exception to the rule being when I had to have 50-odd stitches in my face for being involved in a hit and run because I switched off for a moment. Do I blame the driver? No. Except for the whole leaving me for dead bit. My point boils down to the fact that most people are stupid, whether they're driving cars, pedestrians, 3 year olds or cyclists. I couldn't give a f**k about the reasoning behind them darting out in front of me, I just don't want to have anyone's death/injury on my conscience when I could so easily have just been further away from them. But all the times you're further out than you need to be 'just in case' are times you're holding people up. I'd rather f**k with one persons life than every single other road user due to my own selfish sense of entitlement to a clear conscience.As it happens, I actually ran over a little girl when I was about 16, on my bike. She ran out in front of me, and I broke her collarbone. I felt bad, but I'd totally forgotten about it until now because it wasn't my fault. Conscience: Clear. Edited July 10, 2014 by JD™ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 But all the times you're further out than you need to be 'just in case' are times you're holding people up. I'd rather f**k with one persons life than every single other road user due to my own selfish sense of entitlement to a clear conscience.As it happens, I actually ran over a little girl when I was about 16, on my bike. She ran out in front of me, and I broke her collarbone. I felt bad, but I'd totally forgotten about it until now because it wasn't my fault. Conscience: Clear.Well again, I guess the fact that I've only ever ridden motorbikes and never driven a car on the road is going to effect my view, as I almost never have to stop and wait for traffic to pass, the gaps are usually big enough to get through safely.Personally though if I'd run a kid over and I could have avoided it by either waiting or just giving more room, then it'd haunt me. If you're mentally tough enough to get over it then great, but I certainly couldn't. I couldn't give a toss about "fault", fact is if you run someone down when they pop out from behind a parked car, you can avoid it, and I'd always choose to. Call me selfish but if it's a choice between other people being a few seconds late to work or me having to live with hitting someone, you can be late for all I care. Anyway, 1 girl in many years (10?) of being a road user isn't bad going really, so you're clearly doing something right. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 It was educational for her, I'm sure... In all seriousness though, this sort of conversation is always fun. It's not about convincing really, but trying to understand the other view. Horses for courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Haha, I would imagine she didn't to it again in a hurry. Yeh I tend to enjoy discussing this sort of stuff, helps me improve as a motorist.Maybe one day we should cover filtering on a motorbik ve and how to go about it. Always a hot topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I always give cyclist a LOT of room, as someone I know passed a cyclist giving them space and they got caught on their chain, fell off and went under his car. He doesn't drive any more and doesn't get much sleep at night either. He passed the cyclist where he thought was safe and with quite a lot of room, not accounting for the cyclist falling off her bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 A tube once got bombed, so I no longer use the underground. A plane once crashed, so I never fly anywhere. Someone sneezed in a lift once, and someone else got a cold, so I never get in lifts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Someone paid £1200 rent. I LOL'd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Slightly extreme examples JD All I'm saying is I give extra room, just to be on the safe side. EDIT: Unless you were talking about the guy I know that no longer drives because of it? That may be a bit extreme too, but having never killed someone I can't really comment on how I'd feel about driving afterwards. Edited July 10, 2014 by MadManMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) I have definitely sat vagina first, naked, onto a sand dune today. Edited July 10, 2014 by JD™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Now that definitely went over my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 He's pissed off - sandy vagina 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 How do propose they get around then? I don't. Mainly because it was a bit of bait to see who would bite. Poor showing TF where has the banter gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 He's pissed off - sandy vagina Yep, just generally a completely unproductive week where everything I've tried has failed miserably. They happen every now and again I guess... So arguing on the internet is always the best cure, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't. Mainly because it was a bit of bait to see who would bite. Poor showing TF where has the banter gone. I was going to comment about that but I just can't be f**ked anymore I always lose arguments on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think that's everyone's mentality. Just can't be arsed to make threads, posts etc haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Or that was just a poor piece of bait when other people were chatting about more interesting things 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 it was a bit of bait to see who would bite. Thats against the rules of the forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Meh, I got a small nibble from a very good friend of mine so it was worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I totally missed the argument, but glad I could help anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think that's everyone's mentality. Just can't be arsed to make threads, posts etc haha BECAUSE IT'S ALL SHIT THESE BIKES WEIGH ABOUT 2 GRAM UNICYCLES 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'm on a boat. I'm hungover I went for a shit I tried to wipe my arse The toilet bowl water was higher than expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 This is why you stand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think I learnt the hard way I'm surprised my balls didn't touch it, it was one of those toilets that fill up let everything out through a hole that opens when you flush it, the worst kinda toilets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 You flushed it while sat down? Well thats a major error on your part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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