koxxboy14 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Hi, Did a search as I know there's some similar threads but can't remember the outcome. I built my new frame up and the head tube length is longer so my steerer is majorly on the short side. It measures halfway between or just below halfway the first and second bolt on the stem. Will this be alright? Anyone had a similar experience and used it like this fine? Thanks any help would be good Edited November 23, 2012 by koxxboy14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 It puts stress on the steerer clamp so can crack in-between the bolts. There are, however, many of us (including me) who run it like this and haven't had any problems. you could try getting a slimmer headset or a sloping top cap stem to try giving your steerer a bit of length if it bothers you that much. You should have a gap between 2-4mm so the stem clamps properly anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Not particularly... If you plan on riding it, you'd better make sure that one bolt holding your face away from that sharp brick wall is tight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxxboy14 Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Ah ok... Not sure what to do then. And yeah would get a sloped stem but they only come in 150mm and I want a 165mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 spend a bit more and get a new set of forks? longer steerer then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 As long as your stem bolt reaches then you should be fine. If your break your face don't hold me to that one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 No, it isn't safe, at all. I personally wouldn't ride it, or let anyone ride so... I'd say no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I always think it's better to buy new parts than new teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 As long as your stem bolt reaches then you should be fine. If your break your face don't hold me to that one though. Dude, just stop, seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Or get a steerer tube extensions? I don't know if that works for trials though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Dude, just stop, seriously. Dude please quoting my post and comenting utter Sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Dude please quoting my post and comenting utter Sh*t Stop giving utter shitty advices that might result in someone´s nasty injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Stop giving utter shitty advices that might result in someone´s nasty injury? I've run all my stems like how he described, i'm still standing and so is the other 60% of the trials population who run their stem like this. If its above the first bolt then their is no problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 why do so many threads seem to descend into a bitchy squabble? on topic - i've always used the rule of thumb of the top of the steerer should at least clear the center of the top bolt in your stem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam T Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) I'd only even attempt to ride it with a headlock. Edit: Something like this, http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=17766 Edited November 24, 2012 by Sam T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) why do so many threads seem to descend into a bitchy squabble? on topic - i've always used the rule of thumb of the top of the steerer should at least clear the center of the top bolt in your stem. this +1 even newton could tell you,if he were still alive Edited November 24, 2012 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 this +1 even newton could tell you,if he were still alive +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Brad I thought you said the Halfords store you worked in has the "best mechanic team" or something along them lines.. I can see why they get such a bad name if they give advice like that. As on Tartybikes, it says a gap of 2-6mm is required. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/20_inch_stems/tartybikes_forged_20_inch/c29p11521.html look on additional information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) I've run all my stems like how he described, i'm still standing and so is the other 60% of the trials population who run their stem like this. If its above the first bolt then their is no problem! You can't make up statistics like that Edited November 25, 2012 by King C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 So long as all the stem bolts clamp onto the fork. It will hold strong. If the fork doesn't come high enough and you have a bolt holding thin air it won't end well I like to have 3-5 mm from the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 i'm still standing and so is the other 60% of the trials population who run their stem like this. Making up figures is always a good way to make your argument more valid. Seriously though, if it's close tot he top bolt you'll probably be ok provided everything gets tightened to f**k, but don't ignore it's a problem and keep an eye on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I ran my stem similar to that about a year or two ago. I had a very sore arse and jarred back a week or so later. They were shit forks to be fair, but again, I wouldnt reccommend it. Might be okay if you have a thick steerer tube, but anything like Try-Alls, I wouldnt. I'd buy new forks. Saves any potential pain when/if it were to snap, and everyone loves new parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Brad I thought you said the Halfords store you worked in has the "best mechanic team" or something along them lines.. I can see why they get such a bad name if they give advice like that. As on Tartybikes, it says a gap of 2-6mm is required. http://www.tartybike.../c29p11521.html look on additional information. Halfords do have high demand, it gets to a point where they have to build a bike every 20 minutes so the quality of the build is bound to be bad... as trials riders i'd expect us all to be able to repair our bikes ourselves, instead of blaming halfords for why our bikes don't work properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULtrialsguy Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I run the exact same setup as I went from an internal to an external headset. I tightened up the bottom bolt a lot and bought a new top cap bolt so it reaches nicely into the star nut. My forks are from 2003 so they're pretty tough and I've had no problems so far. But then again I've only been riding it a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I've been running mine below the top bolt for a while, but only a couple of mm. I definitely wouldn't be comfortable recommending it, but it's been ok for me so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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