Jake. Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Hey there, as some of you have seen... I've got myself a lightweight 26" breath. Thread here: I'm a street rider but I've always wanted a sub 8kg bike... Sooo I'm looking to get it sub-8kg, it weighs in at 8.58kg with a Continental 2.2 rear rubber queen and 2.2 mountain king on front. Spec is: TryAll carbon bars 05 maggies, 4 finger levers Echo non disc hubs, front rim echo, rear rim tryall. Wellgo Ti pedals Reset Ti bottom bracket Koxx Forxxs (older version, around 900-1000g) Mountain king 2.2 front tyre, supposedly weighs 850g according to websites TryAll stiky lite rear tyre, around 1050g Tryall isis cranks, can't save any weight there. Tryall 127x27 stem. My ideas are, to get karbon forks to drop the weight by 400g. Get lighter inner tubes, it has standard MTB inner tubes. Possibly get new rims over time and perhaps get new tyres. Anyone got any advice on what else I can do? If you're thinking of telling me to have a shit before a ride, or to wear less clothes. Please don't, it's not even funny anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonNicholson95 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 new forks would be a good idea but carbon snaps easily, your best bet is a light set of alluminiun forks and drilled rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 new forks would be a good idea but carbon snaps easily, your best bet is a light set of alluminiun forks and drilled rims I do have drilled rims, and I'm getting carbon forks. If I get worried about snappage I'll just get a steerer brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 new forks would be a good idea but carbon snaps easily, your best bet is a light set of alluminiun forks and drilled rims Wrong. Personally... I'd just ride it with the spec you have, Luke has put together a well thought out bike thats light but rideable. Saving a few grammes here and there won't make you a better rider, especially at your level (not to be a dick, hope you understand what I mean). However, if you're just trying to save weight for saving weights sake then fair enough. I'd cut every other knobble off, change to light tubes (try latex?), get ti / alu bolts, plus all the other stuff. Depends if you have money to burn or not. Those <- are pretty cheap, compared to new Karbons. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Wrong. Personally... I'd just ride it with the spec you have, Luke has put together a well thought out bike thats light but rideable. Saving a few grammes here and there won't make you a better rider, especially at your level (not to be a dick, hope you understand what I mean). However, if you're just trying to save weight for saving weights sake then fair enough. I'd cut every other knobble off, change to light tubes (try latex?), get ti / alu bolts, plus all the other stuff. Depends if you have money to burn or not. Those <- are pretty cheap, compared to new Karbons. "I'm a street rider but I've always wanted a sub 8kg bike" I know it's not going to improve my skill or anything, I've just always liked light bikes. I wouldn't be buying new karbons, I might be getting some for £100. I really like the spec it is at, as stated I'm hardly going to be changing much. And I know what you mean about my level, I knew people would bring this up, again I'm doing it just because I like light bikes. I don't really want to go all the way and buy Ti bolts for everything, I don't have money to burn. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonNicholson95 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Wrong so is carbon parts snapping more easily just a rumour? i am not saying they aren't strong but if hit in the wrong way it will break, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 If i were you id leave it but you could probably save a good amount of weight without carbon forks that imo will hinder you as you will be worried bout hitting them constantly! New rims Ti spokes Rear hub alloy/Ti bolts Cut the tyres New forks - not karbons. Ti bashring Get a Drill! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ok thats fair enough, I'd go for the tubes / chopping tyres / foam grips (?), stripping anything thats painted, get on ebay and look for the cheap alu bolts (I think I got like 6 for a fiver or less) that can be used sparingly in less stressed areas, take topcap and bolt out and sling it in your riding bag etc... They are all very cheap so is carbon parts snapping more easily just a rumour? i am not saying they aren't strong but if hit in the wrong way it will break, right? Pretty much... Agreed, if you smash say bars / forks into a sharp rock and completely f**k the weave they will probably snap. But given carbon doesn't work harden like alu does, for things like bars its a great material. How many pairs of snapped carbon bars have you seen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 so is carbon parts snapping more easily just a rumour? i am not saying they aren't strong but if hit in the wrong way it will break, right? May not be the retail version but these have been going strong under serious basher abuse for months now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonNicholson95 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 i haven't personaly seen any snapped carbon parts, i always see pictures or hear about them though, maybe its a conspiracy.. May not be the retail version but these have been going strong under serious basher abuse for months now! sick edit man! :bow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Looking at your spec, the bike is light enough. Concentrate less on being a weight wendy and just ride the fu**ing thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Looking at your spec, the bike is light enough. Concentrate less on being a weight wendy and just ride the fu**ing thing. Haha, thanks Luke It's a perfect build IMO I was just seeing if anyone has small suggestions that might shave a few hundred grammes for cheap. I'd rather buy lighter tyres than slick them (as it's winter bluuuerrgghhh), but as soon as the weather becomes more predictable and dry then I may be running slicks. Bike dummie, I'm not going to bother with a Ti bash, I'm not a basher but I like to have a sturdy bash to rely on . If I can get karbons cheap I'll be getting them, if not... Then I may consider looking at TryAll 2011 Forxxs, I'll probably just keep mine if I don't get karbons. Most of the things I'm thinking of doing, I probably won't even do. I just like to see what the forum has to say when it comes to shaving weight. At whoever said to strip paint, there is NO paint anywhere on the bike, it's all anodized I think, and a gentle powdercoat for the maggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 I cut every other knobble off my try all sticky and saved 43 grams. It was pretty worn though, so on a good tyre you could proberly get 50+ grams Also, that front echo rim is pretty heavy, i save 130 grams by changing to a trilatech square holed rim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Ti/alloy bolts Ti pedal axles Ti bb Ti Magura fixings Alloy nipples Singewall rims, holes squared Caged pedals can have cages drilled and the centre of the pedal body drilled Cut down tread / every other knobble on tyres - on many tyres this actually vastly improves grip Replace thick rim tape with selotape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Already has Ti pedal axles, BB and singlewalled rims. Personally I'd stick with the TryAll tyres, a little more weight for considerably more grip and puncture resistance. Neon 2012 rims front and rear- very light. Zhi CNC cranks- new ones are a reasonable amount lighter than the tryalls. Ti rear sprocket. Ti/ Alloy bolts. Ti hose fittings. I don't think sub 8Kgs is possible with this frame (it is 1.7 Kgs), unless you want to get skinny puncture prone tyres and uber expensive carbon forks. I don't have a Ti BB or carbon forks, I do have Tryall Stiky lite/ Shift tyres and what can be changed to Ti/Alu has been and it's around the 8.5 Kgs mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Personally... I'd just ride it with the spec you have, Luke has put together a well thought out bike thats light but rideable. Saving a few grammes here and there won't make you a better rider, especially at your level (not to be a dick, hope you understand what I mean). Cheers bro. If you really wanted to do it, I'm certain that it'd be possible to get this under 8kg with no modified parts. However, it'd be shit in terms of reliability/strength, hence the build that's on there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Cheers bro. If you really wanted to do it, I'm certain that it'd be possible to get this under 8kg with no modified parts. However, it'd be shit in terms of reliability/strength, hence the build that's on there I'm really happy with the build haha it's amazing to ride, I've always wanted a trials bike under sub 8kg at least once in my life even if it's just for one ride and I sell the lightweight parts on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) change the wheels to the lightest available on tarty (use the tool) job done! and echo TR rim brakes are 200g lighter each then 05 maggies Edited November 21, 2012 by stunt man t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 street with a sub 8 bike? that would last me a day or so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 reliability > light weight Your bike is already lighter than I would ever want to go, you've already sacrificed a lot to get it that weight (well, Luke did). Lighter tyres don't grip or feel as good as heavier tyres etc. All you'll achieve by making it lighter is making it much more unreliable and you won't be able to push your riding in fear of breaking bits, also once you've had a light bike, you'll hate having a heavier bike once you realise that a super light bike isn't practical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 reliability > light weight Your bike is already lighter than I would ever want to go, you've already sacrificed a lot to get it that weight (well, Luke did). Lighter tyres don't grip or feel as good as heavier tyres etc. All you'll achieve by making it lighter is making it much more unreliable and you won't be able to push your riding in fear of breaking bits, also once you've had a light bike, you'll hate having a heavier bike once you realise that a super light bike isn't practical. I'll probably leave it as it is then, works amazingly well so no point changing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yup, all you need to do now is bring out a quality vid with a Prodigy soundtrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 front tyre, get the mountain king rs, weighs about 500g but performs the same as a normal mountain king! even halfords can order them in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 http://www.madison.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?&catref=TYC00391 just order them into your local shop on madison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 That front tyre looks good, might try it. Just realized Jack Carthy is using a fat albert 2.4 on his bike, and I looked it up and it weighs in around 650g. Surely it has no grip/punctures all the time?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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