liam n Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Hi everyone I've recently started a new website, to help people start off riding trials and learn all the skills they need. I've added and updated a new "where to ride" page, please check it out. http://www.trials-ex...ride/4569678727 ... I would also be grateful if you could help us out and add some spots you know of! It should be simple enough to do. Just follow this link, https://www.google.c...ff7b89dfe&msa=0 Log in to google then click "edit", start adding your spots. (I will update the main website map with these spots every week or so) Please let me know if there's any problems with this. Thanks to everyone who has added spots so far, the map has been updated with these additions. Edited November 26, 2012 by liam n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Sweet dude Couple things, theres a styling issue on http://www.trials-expert.com/#/what-is-trials-riding/4569639504 on firefox v16, when you scroll down, it jumps up the page so you have to scroll down again. (and the massive gap at the bottom of the page on ie and firefox ) You also selling stuff now?Edit : the flickering is on all pages on ff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Sweet dude Couple things, theres a styling issue on http://www.trials-ex...ding/4569639504 on firefox v16, when you scroll down, it jumps up the page so you have to scroll down again. (and the massive gap at the bottom of the page on ie and firefox ) You also selling stuff now? Edit : the flickering is on all pages on ff Hi Mart, thanks for that! seems to be a problem on every browser and I'm still working on how to get rid of that flicker as it's pretty annoying . and yes I am, it's all set up and just waiting for orders cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Once I remember my google password (if not I'll just make another account -sigh-) I'll add some spots on the south coast that are pretty decent The flicker may be caused be an incorrect ending in the programming of the site (especially if it's php) - just check each line carefully really, which is extremely tedious but hey Anyway, nice site and an awesome map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Oops sorry i made a boo boo, and changed the details at the side instead of adding the name of the spot to the map. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) I am hopeful that you will mention where you got your spots from at somepoint? It all certainly looks fairly familiar to www.ridden.it...just saying... In fact I know they are because i put ALOT of the northern scottish ones up there. Edited November 13, 2012 by ben_travis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypermobilty Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 just added one in stafford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Oops sorry i made a boo boo, and changed the details at the side instead of adding the name of the spot to the map. My bad. No Worries brad, all sorted! thanks for your contribution! jumps up the page so you have to scroll down again. This will be sorted out in the next couple of month, when my website host updates to HTML 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) I am hopeful that you will mention where you got your spots from at somepoint? It all certainly looks fairly familiar to www.ridden.it...just saying... In fact I know they are because i put ALOT of the northern scottish ones up there. Hmm...All the Edinburgh ones that I added to Ridden.it have been copied too - not impressed as you've quite clearly nicked them off ridden.it Unless I'm completely wrong.... Edited November 14, 2012 by AndrewEH1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Yeah, the ones I added to Ridden.it are on there too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Same here. Not cool Liam. EDIT: In fact, email sent to Glynn in case he wants to take any action. Edited November 15, 2012 by JD™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Don't avoid it, liam n, spill the beans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Added all the portsmouth spots to your map, if it's still being used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 You f**k with Glynny bey, you f**k with me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Ripping off other peoples work is seriously not cool. How you think people wouldn't notice is offensive too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I like the idea of what your doing. But you need to think of another way of going about it. Maybe ask glynn if you could incorporate ridden it into your site but a trials specific map as I really like the idea of all this stuff being in one place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 jesus, whats with all of the hate? If any of you know/have met liam, you clearly would know he has no malicious intent. How do any of you know Liam hasn't already asked Glynn for his permission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 It's pretty clear he hasn't asked Glynn, and if you saw when Ridden.it was first released and how it is now you would realise the amount of work Glynn put into it and the rightful recognition he got for his effort. I don't think any one would give it away so quickly... Making your own videos and website is a good thing, but stealing hard work isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 If you did nick stuff without permission from Ridden.it, that's not cool, but in the name of trying to help out I've added all (I think) the Loughborough spots. I'll do Leicester in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynnP Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Hi guys Sorry its taken me awhile to come across this, I have a new email address and forgot to update my profile on here. Just got Jasons email when checking for other stuff. So thought I better clear things up, I dont personally know Liam but he does live only about 15 mins from where I grew up so when I started Ridden.it he did get in contact as he thought I was still riding in the area. Liam emailed me via facebook on the 2nd of November saying that he was starting a website "helping people with how to ride trials and fix there bikes etc." He went onto say "I would really like to do a "where to ride" page. I know you did "ridden.it" and i'm wondering if it would be possible to use the information from your website/map on my website?" My Response was that currently this wouldn't be possible because I haven't built and API and currently dont have the time to do so, I then explained how my domain got messed up for awhile so I was busy fixing that first. I guess when I said it wasn't possible I meant because I never expected anyone in their right mind to sit their trawling the data from the pages by themselves, I guess Liam did exactly this. He seems like a harmless dude but yes Liam this is a bit shameless of you, I believe in open web and open source but both those things revolve around trust and permission which you had neither. I am not too annoyed because its not like he stole my code or produced something with the same features as ridden.it but what is annoying is the lack of respect for the people, your fellow riders, who put in lots of time and hard work to upload their locations to ridden.it. I did my best to work with the riders from various different aspects of cycling to provide a useful tool for the riders and many of these guys were more than helpful and went out of their way to help me out give back to a sport and community which has supported me over the years, so its less me you owe an apology to but everyone who you copy and pasted their data without any credit. The one thing I have been ashamed on from the start is that spots aren't credited to people but it was a very stupid over sight from the start of ridden.it and I am thinking of a way of correcting it as we speak (its tricky because the first idea was a sort of wiki but i feel it now it should credit people). I am gutted that now I work a 9-5 its stripped most of my time from me to develop ridden.it, I had some great plans and would still love to see it grow and grow but something needs to pay the bills. I hope I can slowly build ridden.it and make the huge improvements which are needed. Thanks everyone Glynn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynnP Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Just a little side note to Liam, Dont get me wrong I built some awful websites in my time and even the code behind ridden.it isn't my best (im a front-end developer so ridden.it was much more than front-end) Anyone's first attempt at web development is never going to be good and I can see you are just using a free framework but I am afraid its a terrible one so to show no hard feelings few tops for you Dont use flash especially when you done need to, you have two pages on each page (flash and non-flash plus your non flash version is better so no idea why you have done this) If you want to take web development seriously go away and read these. (Take into account I am a front-end developer so these books are all for front-end) Javascript the good parts http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/0596517742 Html5 introduction & Html5 for web designers http://www.amazon.co...3268336&sr=8-22 http://www.abookapar...r-web-designers Before reading about HTML5 You need to fully understand html and where it has come from and have a grasp of html 4 and pervious versions, but I have never read any books on this so cant suggest any. Never read about css either as you can find everything you need online but I would suggest this one http://about.pricegr...terid=950138330 Steve Krugs books on usability and ux http://www.amazon.co...t_athr_dp_pel_1 I hope it goes well, its always great to have how to videos and its always great to have different peoples views and competition in the shop world is always great for the customers. Edited November 18, 2012 by GlynnP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynnP Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Sorry I was looking through your code to give you some tips and came across this. Its just too good not to post. This is what I was saying about the free templates you are using because pony, Talking users through IE 5, Netscape and AOL browsers seriously? I am sure Liam is too young to remember netscape. http://www.trials-ex...quirements.html Edited November 18, 2012 by GlynnP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Hi everyone ... Really sorry about all this.... I didn't mean to upset anyone.... least of all Glynn who is obviously a sound guy ....I didn't really think about it... I just trawled the internet for as many spots as I could possibly find including ridden.it and a couple of old maps that had dropped to the bottom of the forum, adding a few myself to create something anyone could use. I'm not claiming that any of the information is "mine" and I'm more than happy if anyone wants to copy the map as that's what it's all about and you're very welcome to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 get involved everyone! nice to see someone adding spots across the Atlantic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 /facepalm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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